Author Topic: Rain Becomes Dust vs Self Control  (Read 735 times)

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Rain Becomes Dust vs Self Control
« on: July 13, 2017, 08:41:36 AM »
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If I have Rain Becomes Dust active, and my opponent has Self Control placed on a hero in his/her territory, what happens if my opponent draws a card as part of a special ability used by that opponent?

Rain Becomes Dust:  All cards that an opponent draws because of a special ability used by that opponent are revealed instead. Place all revealed Lost Souls in opponent’s territory. Discard the rest.

Self Control (territory class): Place on your clay or teal Hero. Protect your hand and deck from opponents' cards.

Basically, I am asking if there is some intermediate state to a draw when a card is neither in the deck nor in the hand.

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Re: Rain Becomes Dust vs Self Control
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2017, 08:45:01 AM »
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There is no in between state. RBD will have no effect due to the protection.
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Re: Rain Becomes Dust vs Self Control
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2017, 08:55:30 AM »
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Thanks.  In the middle of trying to work out Redemption timing structures in a more formal manner.

On a related note: I assume that a card like Seven Years of Famine* would also have no effect** on a player protected by Self Control.

*If used by a Genesis character, place in your territory for 7 turns: Negate draw and ignore abilities. During each player’s upkeep, if their hand is 7 or more, they must discard 1.

**The "negate draw" portion of the SA.
« Last Edit: July 13, 2017, 08:59:17 AM by EmJayBee83 »

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Re: Rain Becomes Dust vs Self Control
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2017, 09:30:20 AM »
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Self control protects your hand and deck.
7YoF is a negate that targets abilities so it would still negate draw abilities of a player with SC.
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