Author Topic: Raiding the Land that the Dragon Promised me... (Read 4363 times)

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **on:** May 21, 2010, 05:25:16 PM »

Not really a ruling question, but I just wanted to know how Dragon Raid is really used. I just thought it was a nice site access sort of thing, but I don't see many people use it so I was just curious. I know Promised Land is (For most characters) only a 2 use card, but I was just wondering about DR, because my KoTW has a site icon and I was quickly informed that it is indeed a fortress (Although it wasn't always the case).

-C_S

ChristianSoldier · « **Reply #1 on:** May 21, 2010, 05:34:55 PM »

Dragon Raid is actually a multicolored access site that can be used unlimited times with any character.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #2 on:** May 21, 2010, 05:40:16 PM »

Quote from: ChristianSoldier on May 21, 2010, 05:34:55 PM

Dragon Raid is actually a multicolored access site that can be used unlimited times with any character.

This is correct. The reason it is not used as often as Promised Land is that most people who use Sites use Pergamum, which doesn't allow you to use Dragon Raid when it is occupied. If it wasn't for Pergamum, Dragon Raid would be most often used of access sites. Some people still use it, and deal with Pergamum other ways.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #3 on:** May 21, 2010, 05:50:55 PM »

if Promised Land's ability was negated, would it be able to be used an extra time?

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #4 on:** May 21, 2010, 06:47:39 PM »

Alright, cool. I was just making sure that it wasn't also some type of fortress or something because it seemed like a good back-up site-access card.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #5 on:** May 21, 2010, 06:50:43 PM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on May 21, 2010, 05:50:55 PM

if Promised Land's ability was negated, would it be able to be used an extra time?

I don't believe so. It's the same principle as Burial Shroud being negated by Covenant With Moses. I'm not entirely sure of the rationale though.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #6 on:** May 21, 2010, 06:52:41 PM »

How exactly would you negate Promised Land's ability?

COUNTER_SNIPER · « **Reply #7 on:** May 21, 2010, 06:53:44 PM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on May 21, 2010, 06:52:41 PM

How exactly would you negate Promised Land's ability?

That's on a Top Secret Need to Know basis... and you... don't need to know

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #8 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:10:45 PM »

Quote from: COUNTER_SNIPER on May 21, 2010, 06:53:44 PM

That's on a Top Secret Need to Know basis... and you... don't need to know

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Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #9 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:26:24 PM »

I believe that crazy brown and orange enhancement from either FOOF or ROA (I forget...) can negate the special ability of sites.

(Don't quote me on that, I don't know my cards very well and I haven't taken the extra 5 seconds to look it up)

that one kid · « **Reply #10 on:** May 21, 2010, 07:29:09 PM »

Demonic blockade negates sites too. that's what ur talking about i believe. it's ROA

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #11 on:** May 21, 2010, 09:10:21 PM »

Quote from: that one kid on May 21, 2010, 07:29:09 PM

Demonic blockade negates sites too. that's what ur talking about i believe. it's ROA

So..... you're going to play Demonic Blockade so that your opponent can use Promised Land without limit?

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #12 on:** May 21, 2010, 09:59:30 PM »

Db also turns the site colorless

Master KChief · « **Reply #13 on:** May 21, 2010, 10:05:18 PM »

centurion at capernaum.

Ryupeco11 · « **Reply #14 on:** May 21, 2010, 10:34:14 PM »

Quote

...I'll have to kill you and then they'd give me 25-Life....

are you sure it's not 18 and life?

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #15 on:** May 21, 2010, 11:55:59 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on May 21, 2010, 10:05:18 PM

centurion at capernaum.

Sooo...... you negate the SA of Promised Land to gain unlimited site access using a hero who already has access to all sites?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #16 on:** May 22, 2010, 12:10:23 AM »

Quote from: Ryupeco11 on May 21, 2010, 10:34:14 PM

Quote
...I'll have to kill you and then they'd give me 25-Life....
are you sure it's not 18 and life?

Good song.

Gabe · « **Reply #17 on:** May 22, 2010, 12:48:15 AM »

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on May 21, 2010, 11:55:59 PM

Quote from: Master KChief on May 21, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
centurion at capernaum.

Sooo...... you negate the SA of Promised Land to gain unlimited site access using a hero who already has access to all sites?

There's actually strategic value to doing that. If you have a band that includes the Centurion and then your opponent removes him from battle, your other banded Heroes still have access via Promised Land without taking up a use. But nobody plays red and it doesn't have very much banding...

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #18 on:** May 22, 2010, 12:55:51 AM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on May 22, 2010, 12:48:15 AM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on May 21, 2010, 11:55:59 PM
Quote from: Master KChief on May 21, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
centurion at capernaum.

Sooo...... you negate the SA of Promised Land to gain unlimited site access using a hero who already has access to all sites?

There's actually strategic value to doing that. If you have a band that includes the Centurion and then your opponent removes him from battle, your other banded Heroes still have access via Promised Land without taking up a use. But nobody plays red and it doesn't have very much banding...

...How didn't I notice that?

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #19 on:** May 22, 2010, 02:41:55 AM »

I know that info for a very different reason..........

I read billboards.

crustpope · « **Reply #20 on:** May 22, 2010, 08:11:15 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on May 22, 2010, 12:10:23 AM

Quote from: Ryupeco11 on May 21, 2010, 10:34:14 PM
Quote
...I'll have to kill you and then they'd give me 25-Life....
are you sure it's not 18 and life?
Good song.

Ricky was a young boy, he had a heart of stone. lived 9-5 and worked his fingers to the bone...

Everyone spams my topic so I though I would return the favor and help derail this one...

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #21 on:** May 22, 2010, 09:55:11 AM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on May 22, 2010, 12:48:15 AM

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on May 21, 2010, 11:55:59 PM
Quote from: Master KChief on May 21, 2010, 10:05:18 PM
centurion at capernaum.

Sooo...... you negate the SA of Promised Land to gain unlimited site access using a hero who already has access to all sites?

There's actually strategic value to doing that. If you have a band that includes the Centurion and then your opponent removes him from battle, your other banded Heroes still have access via Promised Land without taking up a use.

Doesn't Promised Land grant site access via its SA, "Hero gains access to any site."?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #22 on:** May 22, 2010, 12:35:21 PM »

Yes. But they also have access by virtue of the site being multicolored. Negating its SA doesn't change the fact that it can be used like any other site.

EmJayBee83 · « **Reply #23 on:** May 22, 2010, 01:00:23 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on May 22, 2010, 12:35:21 PM

Yes. But they also have access by virtue of the site being multicolored. Negating its SA doesn't change the fact that it can be used like any other site.

Hmmph, I thought this was ruled oppositely before.

The Warrior · « **Reply #24 on:** May 22, 2010, 01:02:42 PM »

Quote from: crustpope on May 22, 2010, 08:11:15 AM

Quote from: Minister Polarius on May 22, 2010, 12:10:23 AM
Quote from: Ryupeco11 on May 21, 2010, 10:34:14 PM
Quote
...I'll have to kill you and then they'd give me 25-Life....
are you sure it's not 18 and life?
Good song.
Ricky was a young boy, he had a heart of stone. lived 9-5 and worked his fingers to the bone...

Everyone spams my topic so I though I would return the favor and help derail this one...

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Author Topic: Raiding the Land that the Dragon Promised me... (Read 4363 times)

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