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Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« on: June 23, 2014, 12:43:10 AM »
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Did we ever get a ruling on foreign wives being dynamic? Like let's say I interrupt the battle draw three and play the next enhancement (ie reach of desperation) is she now protected?

Edit: if so then a link to the thread would be very.much appreciated
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #1 on: June 23, 2014, 01:09:19 AM »
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I've actually been meaning to ask this question for some time, since I remember there being a discussion about it, so thanks for bringing it up. I'm not sure what the actual ruling is, but I don't believe that Wives' protection can kick in after she blocks, due to "has drawn" being clear past tense.
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #2 on: June 23, 2014, 01:29:32 AM »
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I agree! Hopefully the literal meaning of cards will actually be the ruling
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #3 on: June 23, 2014, 03:28:16 AM »
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IIRC, it is dynamic because protect in an ongoing ability, so also should the check be ongoing.
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #4 on: June 23, 2014, 04:25:51 AM »
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IIRC? sorry I don't know what that means..
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #5 on: June 23, 2014, 07:35:42 AM »
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IIRC, IIRC means if I recall correctly.  ;)
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2014, 12:06:59 PM »
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I believe the current ruling is that it IS dynamic. This was according to ProfA and SirNobody.

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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #7 on: June 23, 2014, 04:43:42 PM »
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The current ruling is that it is dynamic, but this goes back to how characters activate, and I am on the side with Chris that her wording clearly says that it is a 'past' condition that activates one time, not continually.
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2014, 05:51:46 PM »
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Agreed with Guardian and Redoubter about the current ruling being continuous.

Also agreed with Redoubter and Chris that it shouldn't be. I don't see any reason why a continuous effect can't have an instant trigger, those aren't (or at least shouldn't be) inherently related, so Wives working as they describe seems perfectly logical to me. If it was meant to be a continuous check, the card should have been written with a "while" condition rather than an "if" condition, or written in the present tense (something like "If opponent draws 5 or more cards this turn...").

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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #9 on: June 23, 2014, 06:47:08 PM »
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As much as I wish cards did what they said they did, I have to disagree with the verb tense argument here. The past perfect tense refers to something that has happened before something else occurs. The wording of the card does not specify the action. It does not say "when played"; it simply has a conditional clause. Given the sentence structure, the condition is related to "protect," and that would mean an ongoing dynamic reference for the condition.
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Re: Another foreign wife's question (sorry in advance)
« Reply #10 on: June 23, 2014, 07:08:11 PM »
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Quote from: DDiceRC on June 23, 2014, 06:47:08 PM
The wording of the card does not specify the action.

That would be the block.  That is consistent with the wording on other abilities, referring to the block.
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