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Quick question about certain cards outburst of anger , death of Firstborn
« on: August 12, 2017, 01:25:41 PM »
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Just wondering which of the following 3 cards in the list does or does not cause special initiative to the opposing character when played in battle??

1. Outburst of Anger: SA

Hero is returned to owner's hand. A new Hero must be placed in battle or rescue attempt fails.

2. Death of Firstborn: SA

Immunity on all characters is negated. Blocking Evil character refuses to block. Opponent must present a new blocker or rescue attempt is successful.

3. Lion Dwelling with the Calf: SA

Blocking Evil Character refuses to block. Opponent must present a new blocker or rescue is successful.
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Re: Quick question about certain cards outburst of anger , death of Firstborn
« Reply #1 on: August 12, 2017, 02:12:01 PM »
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Since it's 2 separate, although paired abilities in withdraw and present, you should get SI between them, if the withdraw leaves you with no characters in battle.
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Re: Quick question about certain cards outburst of anger , death of Firstborn
« Reply #2 on: August 12, 2017, 02:23:28 PM »
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Also, keep in mind that if there are still characters in battle after one of these is played, the present ability does not trigger.
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Re: Quick question about certain cards outburst of anger , death of Firstborn
« Reply #3 on: August 12, 2017, 03:37:03 PM »
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So the same SI rule applies to Medium in Endor's ability, correct?
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Re: Quick question about certain cards outburst of anger , death of Firstborn
« Reply #4 on: August 12, 2017, 03:46:23 PM »
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No, and not to choose opponent either.  Both of those require a target to bring into battle, which does not leave you without a hero in battle to trigger SI.

It's the difference between 1 ability replacing the hero, and an ability withdrawing and another replacing.
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