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Questions regarding battles
« on: February 14, 2016, 05:50:39 PM »
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Thoroughly confused.
First how do side battles work, can he do a achans sin in a side battle to discard all cards in the battle- would that discard my hero too.
What if he negates Ehud in battle what happens?
In what order do drawing and placing cards underneath my deck and doing special abilities come into play?

We are playing type two.
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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #1 on: February 14, 2016, 06:10:42 PM »
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There's a very helpful video on Side Battles from Land of Redemption by Dayne:

http://landofredemption.com/?p=464

« Last Edit: February 14, 2016, 07:06:27 PM by Gabe »
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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #2 on: February 14, 2016, 08:07:46 PM »
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Thanks Jesse- also thanks Dayne- that helped

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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #3 on: February 14, 2016, 08:39:42 PM »
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To the other points, a CtB ability is CBI when used before a blocker is presented (for loop or nasty combo stoppage).

Can you clarify on the last points so we can answer specifically?

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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #4 on: February 15, 2016, 01:48:58 PM »
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I band the fallen angel to messenger of Satan to elymas or something like that
What abilities come into play first.
Messenger- may draw x (good brigades in battle) from bottom of your deck. May band to a human
Elymas- protect evil characters... Reveal the top or bottom card of deck- if it is evil add it to hand

Or if i band messenger to Egyptian magicians who's ability and what parts of it come into play first.

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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #5 on: February 15, 2016, 01:53:18 PM »
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pretty sure its who ever enters battle goes first, so messenger in this case because he is the second in battle, and then elymas, because he came into battle after messenger. take this with a grain of salt though, i really have no idea. ;)
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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #6 on: February 15, 2016, 03:49:26 PM »
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pretty sure its who ever enters battle goes first, so messenger in this case because he is the second in battle, and then elymas, because he came into battle after messenger. take this with a grain of salt though, i really have no idea. ;)

You do all abilities on characters other than banding first.  So Fallen Angel only bands so that goes first and last.  Then Messenger draws then bands, then Elymas reveals.  So the above was correct just expanding a little.

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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #7 on: February 15, 2016, 03:55:50 PM »
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Ok, thanks, cause i was wondering about that too, and it was really bothering me.
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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #8 on: February 15, 2016, 04:37:32 PM »
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Soo if I band messenger and Egyptian magicians, then I messenger draws and then Egyptian magicians reveals?

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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #9 on: February 15, 2016, 04:57:05 PM »
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Soo if I band messenger and Egyptian magicians, then I messenger draws and then Egyptian magicians reveals?

No, you're over complicating it. Just use the special abilities in the order they are written and you'll be doing it correctly.

Messenger draw > Messenger band > EM reveal > EM add to hand or battle > EM band.
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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #10 on: February 15, 2016, 06:21:40 PM »
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Okay thanks Gabe, I understand it better now :)

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Re: Questions regarding battles
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2016, 12:15:11 PM »
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Just use the special abilities in the order they are written and you'll be doing it correctly.

This may be the case in this and most circumstances, but it isn't always true.  Per the REG:

1. Complete all special abilities in the order written on the card except those that add a character
to a battle (see steps 3 and 4 below).
Note that some special abilities can happen together even though they may be separated by a
period.
2. If the card is a character with either a gained ability or a weapon-class enhancement, then:
a. Activate any gained abilities in the order gained except those that add a character to a
battle (see steps 3 and 4 below).
b. Activate the special abilities on any carried weapon-class enhancement except those
that add a character to a battle (see steps 3 and 4 below).
Note that this only applies to cards that are PLAYED and abilities gained BY a character.
Enhancements that are placed on a character were played previously, and that is when they
activated; also, their abilities are on the enhancement, not “gained” by the character.
3. Complete band ​abilities.
4. Complete any choose blocker/rescuer​ side battle ​abilities.
5. Complete all pending abilities that trigger or activate based on the playing of the card (either
playing generally or by putting a character in battle).
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