Cactus Game Design Message Boards

1. In this example would the hero (Miriam) be considered "the last card played' and the EC gains the initiative?

 If Aaron 6/4 (Green) begins a RA and bands Miriam 4/4 with total of 10/8

  then is blocked by (Gray) Laban 9/9.



2. Would the hero get to play the first enhancement in this example?

  Levi (blue) with weapon Helmet of brass SA: Hero may play the first enhancement after the blocker is presented. 

 then is blocked by The jeering youths SA: If blocking an O.T human hero  ,may play an O.T brown enhancement. (and wants to play enhancement)


3. Would Levi or EC play the first enhancement?

 Levi has Helmet of brass and Lacking Sleep placed on him SA: While hero is lacking sleep player must allow the opponent to play the first enhancement in battle and is blocked by any EC.

1. What should the player do if a search or exchange ability is negated? Should they put the exchanged or searched card on top of draw pile or shuffle it back in?

2. Could a single hero set themselves a side in a battle when they have normal initiative with an enhancement like Prayer and fasting SA: set Hero a side . hero gains 1/1.. and leaves battle?

3. Would Joseph in prison enhancement still remove all cards in battle from the game or does the SA stay interrupted in this example?

  EC in battle plays Joseph in prison , and then hero interrupts it with Reach and plays no enhancement and the SA is done on reach.

1) If a card that searches a deck (whether it exchanges or not) gets negated, you shuffle the searched card back into the deck.

2) Yes, however it has to follow the normal rules of initiative.

3) Yes, interrupting on its own won't stop a card from resolving, so after Reach is finished and no enhancement is played (or one that doesn't stop Joseph in Prison from 'reactivating') Joseph in Prison will remove everything from the game.

Curses are artifacts when they are in the artifact pile or some other place as an artifact, but not when in battle as an enhancement. So you can discard your opponent's Unknown Nation with Lying Unto God in the artifact pile, but not if they have played it in battle as an enhancement.

I am also fairly sure that they are artifacts at face value, so if you are searching for an artifact you can search for Captured Ark, although I'm not 100% sure about this one.

Agree that curses and covenants are both enhancements and artifacts until played, just like everything that is dual-something.  Also agree with browarod's assessment of the conflicting abilities, based on the Wandering Spirit - Tartaros ruling.  It is a funky situation, but it should play out like that, yes.

1.  You are correct that you can play it even on your opponent's turn, and that your example is valid.  That is how all healing works, and on both alignments.  For example, I can use Brass Serpent on your turn if you discard my hero, and you can use Torment on my turn if I discard your EC.  Either is valid.

Playing Healing Enhancements
Healing enhancements can be played in battle (during the battle phase) or outside of battle. When played during the battle phase they must be played according to the rules that govern when other enhancements can be played. A player has the option to play a healing enhancement during the preparation phase and the discard phase. A healing enhancement played in this way must be played on a character of matching brigade in one of two ways: (1) on a character in the holder's territory or (2) on a character in the holder's discard pile (if the character was discarded in the same turn). Both result in that character being healed. Healing cards played on a character in a discard pile must target the same character.

2. Yes.  If you had Ethiopian Treasurer play Crushing Blow from your example, the BC becomes a RA.  Similarly, if your opponent blocks your BC and your hero(es) gains access during the battle, it also becomes a RA.  The state of BC/RA can be fluid.

3. Hand, deck, discard pile, set-aside, and LoR are not in play.  The only things in play are Field of Battle, territory, and Land of Bondage.  CM cannot target a hero in set-aside, since it defaults to play (those three locations above).

You may only play healing cards:
1. In battle, when you could normally play the card by normal rules/initiative.
2. In any prep or discard phase during which you have a valid target.

1. Correct. If a CBN card with an ongoing ability is discarded, the ongoing ability lasts until the end of the current phase.

2. No. Instant abilities completed in prior phases/turns are CBN. If you negate/discard it later it doesn't undo the conversions that were already completed.

3. I've always assumed that the numbers do not count because the enhancement is no longer in battle but I'm not 100% sure on that.

3.1 Yes there are ways (such as the 2 you described) to negate a card that places itself outside of battle.

4. Yes. Negate is an ongoing ability so unless it's on a card that stays in play the negate only lasts until the end of the phase in which it is played.

5. Enhancements can be ignored, technically, but it doesn't specifically affect the enhancement. You can still play an ignored enhancement and (assuming it's CBN or CBP, in this case) it activates as normal. Ignoring an enhancement does not specifically accomplish anything.

6. If you are playing with the Rescuer's Choice rule then anytime a Hero initiates a battle the player must select a Lost Soul to attempt to rescue (even if they don't have access). If they gain access to that Soul during the battle challenge it becomes a rescue attempt.

7. Yes. As said before, ongoing abilities last until the end of the phase in which they are played unless they are negated. Since AuTO is CBN the protection cannot be negated and persists until the end of the battle phase.

Referring to Question 5 so if I play a good banding enhancement in battle with no CBN or CBP status , the SA on it will take no effect and only the numbers on it will count while HHI is active?

HHI's ability, while it sounds odd, basically means that any hero with a band ability is ignored (cannot enter battle), and any abilities on good non-character cards that allow heroes to band are prevented (for a more in-depth explanation, see this post).

Agree 100% with browarod's post for all other questions as well.

1. The rule would be that Call does not prevent Archelaus.  The reason is twofold.  First, enhancements played by a character are "of that character" for the purposes of these abilities.  Any enhancements played by heroes that would prevent Archelaus's ability prior to him being active would count as that hero trying to prevent him, so he would still work.  Second, Isaiah's Call says that Isaiah negates all those abilities, and so it also cannot affect Archelaus before he activates.

1.1  No.  Abilities last until the end of the current phase unless the timeframe specifies something else.  "While in play" or "While in battle" both have a specific end condition, and the ability cannot persist afterwards.  It does not stop the negation of cards that already took place, but it does stop the prevention going forward.

2.  Yes.  Only CBI or CBN abilities would not be undone.

3.  Yes, though it just means that you can start a new battle if the conditions are met.  The next battle could start as a RA or BC, without regard to the state of the previous battle.

4.  Yes.  As mentioned before, all abilities last through the end of the current phase unless a different timeframe or condition is specified.  Since Moses has no conditions, and was not negated, the FBTN persists until end of battle.

5.  No.  Default for almost all abilities is "in play" and discard is one of those.  For reference, you can see the default targeting of an ability in the REG.

6.  No.  Placed cards go with the cards on which they are placed.  Even in the case where the contents are protected, they still follow their 'holder' wherever they go.

7.  Yes.

Movement of Cards “Placed On” Other Cards
If a card is placed on another card and the underlying card is relocated, the placed card is generally relocated to the same location that the underlying card is relocated and remains there. Exceptions to this rule are:

• Lost Souls that are placed in sites are always returned to the general Land of Bondage and do not follow the underlying sites when the sites are relocated.
• Any card placed on a Lost Soul is discarded if the Lost Soul is relocated outside its original Land of Bondage.

1. No. Fortresses and Doms are colorless, the rainbow background just differentiates good from evil. But Aaron (green and Teal), Simon the Zealot (Purple and red), and Seeker of the Lost (red, blue and yellow) would be 6. Or you could just get lucky and catch him with Paul for 8.

2. When Eli enters battle, yes. Curses are targetable as artifacts while in hand, draw, artifact, and discard pile.

1. Once a phase ends, anything that completed in a prior phase (any prior phase) is CBN from that point forward.  In your example, once the next person started their turn, that conversion is no longer able to be negated.  It has completed in a prior phase.

2. You cannot play any cards, including dominants, during the resolution of another ability, and a player wins when they reach 5 souls by game rule.  If you play SOG+NJ while at 3 in a T1 game, you cannot not have FA stop you anymore, you just win.

3. Ah, tricky question.  It really depends on the wording of the card.  Anything that says "that opponent has" or "on opponent's cards" refers to ownership and control.  So, your example works, but a card like Sowing the Seed would not count, because your opponent would not 'own' it.

When cards talk about "your" cards or "opponent's" cards or "their" cards, they only trigger for cards with both ownership and control by the same player.  Cards that refer only to "in territory" or "control" only refer to control, and don't require ownership.

1.  Yes.

2.  Only if they were placed that phase.  Place/Hold abilities that completed in a prior phase are CBN after the phase in which they completed, but if you were to negate a fortress in the phase during which a special ability on the fortress allowed cards to be placed/held, they would return to their previous location.