Cactus Game Design Message Boards

Sorcerers: Reveal the top or bottom card of deck. If it is not a good card , you may add it to hand or discard it to discard a good card.

The Two Witnesses: After battle , discard all Evil characters that blocked.

Assyrian Survivor: If defeated , capture to opponent's land of bondage. Can not be interrupted.

Fifth bowl of Wrath dual alignment  ( silver , green good brigade and black brigade enhancement)

King Abijam Dual alignment character (purple hero or brown EC)

Achan's sin (pale green): ITB and banish all cards in battle

Death of Unrighteous: Shuffle all lost souls and sites in holder's LOB into owner's deck. Discard all evil characters in battle.

The woman with child: you may search deck for a good dominant card if it is SOG this CBI.

Abaddon the destroyer: Negate a good or neutral card.

The second coming: search deck or discard for a good dominant card.

2K horses: holder may ITB ,draw 2 play next

Guardian of your Souls: If an opponent's evil card removes a Lost Soul from play , you may discard a martyr in territory or a good enhancement from hand instead.


Sorcerers/ cards questions:

1. If Sorcerers revealed 5th bowl of wrath from bottom of deck , can that player discard it to discard a good card??

2. If Sorcerers revealed King Abijam from bottom of deck , can that player discard it to discard a good card??

Decrease and exp question:

example: Hero has 5/5 on the printed card but got 1/1 experience credit in a previous battle.

1. If an enhancement SA said "decrease all heroes by 5/5 , would that hero be discarded or does the 1/1 experience credit save it from being discarded??

witnesses / after battle questions

1. If 2 witnesses was blocked by one EC in battle and then that evil character was either shuffled into owner's deck  , put back in reserve or returned to owner's hand by a SA  during battle , would that EC be discarded after battle??

2. what if that EC was converted to a hero during battle , would it be discarded after battle??

R.E.G and Assyrian survivor questions :

An evil character is defeated when...

Quote fro R.E.G 5.0

The Evil Character is removed from battle because of an ability (except for mutual
destruction by mutual removal).

1.  What does mutual removal mean?? Does it mean being removed from battle by a special ability??

2. Would a good example of what this part of the REG is saying would be  Achan's sin or death of Unrighteous??

3. If Assyrian survivor played Achan's sin or death of unrighteous would the capture abilitiy trigger??

Initiative tournament question:

Example: Player A has SOG in discard pile and Player B has abaddon the destoryer in territory.

1.In a tournament if Player A goes for a RA againest Player B with woman with child and searches TSC does Player A need to ask Player B for initiative to play TSC and/or SOG cards before Player B can block?? (since Player B has a possibility of negating woman with child search ability with Abaddon??) or can player A just play both or one right away??

Draw and played enhancement question:

Example: 2k horses was played in battle (holder drew a 3/3 non SA enhancement off of the draw by 2K horses) then blocking player plays that 3/3 enhancement in battle.

Then rescuing hero negates 2K horses.

1. Does the already played 3/3 non SA enhancement stay in battle or does it go back on top of deck??

Guardian of your souls questions:

Example: Rescuing player has Goys in land of redemption and blocking player has two lost souls in territory. Then blocking player plays death of Unrighteous to shuffle both Lost souls.

1. If rescuing player wants to save 2 Lost Souls from being shuffled would they have to discard two good enhancements or just one??

2. If rescuing player insteads the shuffle of both Lost Souls , would the result end up being all blocking Evil characters would be discarded without Lost Souls being shuffled??

Sorcerers
Because it says "not good" as opposed to "evil", a Bowl of Wrath or King Abijam should return to the bottom of the deck. They are both good and evil until played, so it's not "not good". Babylon the Harlot is "not good" and could be discarded.

Decrease
Any increase (including experience credit) changes the character and will potentially save it from a decrease. Enhancements do not change the character and will not save it from decrease.

Two Witnesses
After battle abilities must be able to target cards as they exist after battle. Cards that are not in play are not valid targets, unless something overrides the default. Converted ECs are no longer ECs.

Survivor
Bobbert is correct about what mutual removal is. Because mutual removal is not a defeat for the EC, Survivor would be removed because he's not defeated.

Draw and Play
All drawn cards are returned to the deck, unless a CBN card has been played. Playing an Enhancement just allows you to play it, it doesn't keep it in battle.

GoYS
1. It should be 1 Enhancement/Martyr per Soul to remain in play.
2. Bobbert is correct.

Draw and Play
All drawn cards are returned to the deck, unless a CBN card has been played. Playing an Enhancement just allows you to play it, it doesn't keep it in battle.

Is this intentionally changing an old ruling? If I recall a very large year old thread correctly the enhancement played by the play ability can't be returned to deck from the draw being cascaded and sticks to the table because of the play ability being CBI. If it had an ability it would still get cascade negate, just not returned to deck.

Quote from: RedemptionAggie on April 06, 2018, 04:29:08 PM

Draw and Play
All drawn cards are returned to the deck, unless a CBN card has been played. Playing an Enhancement just allows you to play it, it doesn't keep it in battle.

Is this intentionally changing an old ruling? If I recall a very large year old thread correctly the enhancement played by the play ability can't be returned to deck from the draw being cascaded and sticks to the table because of the play ability being CBI. If it had an ability it would still get cascade negate, just not returned to deck.

Come to think of it , I kinda do remember about play abilities being CBI once played.

Have another question to add to it.

1. What if the 3/3 enhancement was drawn by 2K horses , but was not played by 2K horses?? Instead the blocking EC played the 3/3 enhancement off of regular initiative and then 2K horses was negated? Then would the enhancement go back on top of deck??

Seems like to me if an enhancement was played off of a play ability then it should stay in battle CBI. If the enhancement that was drawn off of 2K (not played by 2K horse's play ability though) but only played during regular initiative then it should be put back on top of deck...

Any thoughts on this??

Sorcerers
Because it says "not good" as opposed to "evil", a Bowl of Wrath or King Abijam should return to the bottom of the deck. They are both good and evil until played, so it's not "not good". Babylon the Harlot is "not good" and could be discarded.

Decrease
Any increase (including experience credit) changes the character and will potentially save it from a decrease. Enhancements do not change the character and will not save it from decrease.

Two Witnesses
After battle abilities must be able to target cards as they exist after battle. Cards that are not in play are not valid targets, unless something overrides the default. Converted ECs are no longer ECs.

Survivor
Bobbert is correct about what mutual removal is. Because mutual removal is not a defeat for the EC, Survivor would be removed because he's not defeated.

Draw and Play
All drawn cards are returned to the deck, unless a CBN card has been played. Playing an Enhancement just allows you to play it, it doesn't keep it in battle.

GoYS
1. It should be 1 Enhancement/Martyr per Soul to remain in play.
2. Bobbert is correct.

1. For the decrease question from the example I gave , I am assuming you are saying the 5/5 hero (which is now 6/6 due to experience credit) would be safe from being discarded (by game rule) by the enhancement that is decrease all heroes by 5/5??

Quote from: RedemptionAggie on April 06, 2018, 04:29:08 PM

Sorcerers
Because it says "not good" as opposed to "evil", a Bowl of Wrath or King Abijam should return to the bottom of the deck. They are both good and evil until played, so it's not "not good".

Making sure I understand this, if I use Egyptian Magicians or Astrologers, and one of the bowls or Abijam is at the bottom of my deck, does it meet the targetable criteria for an evil card or not?

Yes it is targetable for either of those. Sorcerers is different because Sorcerers says "not good", while Astrologers and Egyptian Magicians both say "evil".