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This probably won't work, but...
« on: September 16, 2010, 01:16:16 AM »
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Is there any time that you can't like "trigger" golgotha after you put a green hero into battle and before you use Hidden Treasures to play an enhancement?
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2010, 01:19:13 AM »
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You have to wait for abilities to complete. After you rescue with your lone green prophet you must either decide to play an enhancement/discard a card or forfeit the option. After that, you can use Golgotha.

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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2010, 11:23:15 AM »
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You have to wait for abilities to complete. After you rescue with your lone green prophet you must either decide to play an enhancement/discard a card or forfeit the option. After that, you can use Golgotha.

Correct. Hidden Treasures triggers as soon as all SA's on the prophet and associated placed/weapon class abilities are resolved. Once Hidden Treasures is used or not, then other things (like Golgotha) can happen.
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #3 on: September 16, 2010, 11:25:00 AM »
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Can you declare that the battle phase has begun before placing any characters into battle? ;D
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #4 on: September 16, 2010, 12:10:52 PM »
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Hey,

Can you declare that the battle phase has begun before placing any characters into battle? ;D

Nope.  The battle phase begins WHEN you place a character into battle.

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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #5 on: September 16, 2010, 12:18:04 PM »
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Yeah, Golgotha was worded as it is to avoid making recursion super easy with Nathan. Feel free to use The Silver Trumpets and a low-numbered Priest to bring him in and get your enhancement/curse back though...or, you know, just use Threatened Lives + High Places to get them all back...
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2010, 12:46:32 PM »
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or, you know, just use Threatened Lives + High Places to get them all back...
I sure wish you could do that...
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2010, 12:48:09 PM »
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So enhancements DO follow Golgotha, whether they're shuffled discarded or whatever? Good to know...

I'm definitely gonna have to base my deck on this card this year.  ;D
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2010, 12:49:21 PM »
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or, you know, just use Threatened Lives + High Places to get them all back...
I sure wish you could do that...

As in, you don't think I can? Because I definitely can.
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2010, 12:54:07 PM »
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or, you know, just use Threatened Lives + High Places to get them all back...
I sure wish you could do that...

As in, you don't think I can? Because I definitely can.
Well, you can't do it during prep phase, and you have to have been attacked in order to set it up. At first I could have sworn Golgotha said "until end of phase" but after double-checking I can't believe it doesn't. Why doesn't it? Wouldn't that make it way less OP?
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2010, 12:56:17 PM »
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Who says it's overpowered? I feel like to make this card useful enough you need to use a lot of cards that you base around it... which is a pretty narrow strategy that doesn't give you many other options if they, let's say, discard Golgotha.

Question: What ways are there to get this out of the discard pile? Any ways other than well reopened?
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #11 on: September 16, 2010, 12:59:09 PM »
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Question: What ways are there to get this out of the discard pile? Any ways other than well reopened?
No, but CP can prevent it from happening.

EDIT: Oh yeah, that one LS...
« Last Edit: September 16, 2010, 01:19:33 PM by BubbleBoy »
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #12 on: September 16, 2010, 01:03:23 PM »
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Who says it's overpowered? I feel like to make this card useful enough you need to use a lot of cards that you base around it... which is a pretty narrow strategy that doesn't give you many other options if they, let's say, discard Golgotha.

Question: What ways are there to get this out of the discard pile? Any ways other than well reopened?
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #13 on: September 16, 2010, 01:36:56 PM »
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Well, you can't do it during prep phase, and you have to have been attacked in order to set it up.

False. If you try it when you are attacked, you won't be able to do it, because you can't play Threatened Lives after the battle with High Places. So I always do it when I attack.  ;D
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #14 on: September 16, 2010, 01:40:20 PM »
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Well, you can't do it during prep phase, and you have to have been attacked in order to set it up.

False. If you try it when you are attacked, you won't be able to do it, because you can't play Threatened Lives after the battle with High Places. So I always do it when I attack.  ;D

-.- That's what I meant...
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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #15 on: September 16, 2010, 02:48:49 PM »
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you could rescue, blah blah blah, use Golgotha, use Grapes, rescue with Nathan. or The Long Day + Stillness and rescue with Nathan.

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Re: This probably won't work, but...
« Reply #16 on: September 16, 2010, 04:34:37 PM »
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That does work, actually.
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