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hi123 · « **on:** August 19, 2010, 10:44:47 AM »

- My opponent Uses the COTH band chain. I have assyrias Tribute out. Can I block with my Assyrian, and use Assyrias Tribute to negate my opponents COTH band chain?

Thanks!

Gabe · « **Reply #1 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:06:42 AM »

Professoralstad · « **Reply #2 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:13:22 AM »

Artifacts are not negated by Captain of the Host, so blocking with an Assyrian + Assyria's Tribute negates all negatable hero abilities. Most banding, especially CoTH banding chains, is negatable, so yes, you could negate the banding chain.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #3 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:15:20 AM »

Note that having Assyria's Tribute active counts as a use. You opponent should probably just wait two turns if they wish to use a Captain Band, since after the second turn of active (use), Assyria's Tribute is discard.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #4 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:21:20 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 19, 2010, 11:13:22 AM

Most banding, especially CoTH banding chains, is negatable.

actually, CoTH bands are semi-harder to negate, since they'll negate lame anti-banding enhancements.

hi123 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:23:22 AM »

Quote from: BrianGabe on August 19, 2010, 11:06:42 AM

Yes.

Ok, thanks Everyone!

Professoralstad · « **Reply #6 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:27:30 AM »

Quote from: Ring Wraith on August 19, 2010, 11:21:20 AM

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 19, 2010, 11:13:22 AM
Most banding, especially CoTH banding chains, is negatable.
actually, CoTH bands are semi-harder to negate, since they'll negate lame anti-banding enhancements.

I wasn't referring to the degree of negatability, I was referring to the ability to be negated. As in, the TGT ladies band is not negatable with TGT out, but I can't think of any banding chain including CotH that can't be negated (except for Gathering I guess).

Prof Underwood · « **Reply #7 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:53:03 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 19, 2010, 11:15:20 AM

Note that having Assyria's Tribute active counts as a use.

I always forget on this one. Are you sure this is right?

edit: Nevermind, I just found this post. AlexO (and RDT) are both right

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #8 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:56:01 AM »

Yep, I'm 100% sure, even if he isn't.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #9 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:56:58 AM »

I am pretty positive. We had a super long argument about it awhile ago. People like myself were like "This card is useless if wesay that" and evil dictators (aka Schaef

) were like "We don't care, we do what we want (aka that's how the card is supposed to be read, it was a grammar error)".

Isildur · « **Reply #10 on:** August 19, 2010, 11:58:01 AM »

Yeah thats how its supposed to work.

The M · « **Reply #11 on:** August 19, 2010, 02:35:54 PM »

tightness!!!
didn't know about this before.
go assyrians!

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #12 on:** August 19, 2010, 02:55:30 PM »

It actually makes the artifact worse, so I am not sure why you are happy.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #13 on:** August 19, 2010, 03:29:54 PM »

maybe he was referring to the negation of the captain band?

BlazerCC · « **Reply #14 on:** August 19, 2010, 03:50:34 PM »

Im sure he is happy about the negation of the Band.

Who is left in battle if its negated?
*Gathering wasn't used (that would make this answer too complex for what im looking for.)

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #15 on:** August 19, 2010, 03:52:26 PM »

Quote from: BlazerCC on August 19, 2010, 03:50:34 PM

Im sure he is happy about the negation of the Band.

Who is left in battle if its negated?
*Gathering wasn't used (that would make this answer too complex for what im looking for.)

whoever entered first.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #16 on:** August 19, 2010, 03:56:13 PM »

Also, just to clarify as you said it would be too complicated, adding a single CBN band in a chain is not complicated at all.

Say I made a Rescue Attempt with Tribal Elder banded to Jake banded to Mike (Gathered) banded to Simeon (gold) banded to Captain of the Host. My opponent negates all of my heroes Special abilities. I would be left with Tribal elder and Simeon in battle. Tribal elder was the first person in the chain, so he stays, and Simeon was added to battle with a CBN ability, so he stays.

It's pretty simple.

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #17 on:** August 19, 2010, 04:01:29 PM »

Wouldn't Mike stay too though since the band CBN'd?

Daniel

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #18 on:** August 19, 2010, 04:04:42 PM »

No, because Jacob brought Michael into battle, and Jacob can be negated.

BlazerCC · « **Reply #19 on:** August 19, 2010, 04:10:48 PM »

ok, thanks!

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #20 on:** August 19, 2010, 04:12:20 PM »

Hmm, I'm wrong I guess, Just seems like the Band from one guy to another cannot be negated shouldn't be allowed to be negated.

Daniel

Bryon · « **Reply #21 on:** August 20, 2010, 02:49:03 AM »

It makes more sense if you think of band not like "these guys stick together this battle," but rather treat band like "add this guy to battle."

The M · « **Reply #22 on:** August 20, 2010, 09:11:22 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 19, 2010, 02:55:30 PM

It actually makes the artifact worse, so I am not sure why you are happy.

no I play assyrians so it is better.
i play with COTH too of course but oh well never run into that

crustpope · « **Reply #23 on:** August 20, 2010, 09:13:13 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 19, 2010, 11:15:20 AM

Note that having Assyria's Tribute active counts as a use. You opponent should probably just wait two turns if they wish to use a Captain Band, since after the second turn of active (use), Assyria's Tribute is discard.

I absolutely detest this ruling and think it is a ridiculous ruling for a very weakly used artifact.

The M · « **Reply #24 on:** August 20, 2010, 09:21:06 AM »

yup kinda pathetic but we have to make do with what we have...

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