Author Topic: Protection vs Immunity (Read 9269 times)

Lamborghini_diablo · « **on:** August 23, 2010, 03:17:27 PM »

Say i have 11 disciples out, and I make a RA with Thaddeus, and I protected from immunity on evil characters such as Red Dragon and Garrison?

Thaddeus (Di)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Purple • Ability: 8 / 8 • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect all cards in play, set-aside area, Artifact piles, hands, and decks from Evil Characters with toughness X or less. Cannot be interrupted. • Identifiers: NT Male Human, Disciple • Verse: Matthew 10:2-3 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()

crustpope · « **Reply #1 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:19:46 PM »

I would say no, because immunity does not harm you it only protects the EC. I would say that you would be protected from being killed by Red Dragon (regardless of his numbers) but that he would also be protected from you. so if no cards are played it would be a stalemate.

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #2 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:20:25 PM »

Not sure, seems like they can't hurt you and you couldn't hurt them either. You're protected from them, and they're ignore'n / immune to you, which is basically the same thing.

Daniel

The M · « **Reply #3 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:21:17 PM »

so it would be stalemate...

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #4 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:21:40 PM »

Well apparently, Thaddeus protects lost souls from being protected from rescue...

Why doesn't it stop immunity? Also, would Thaddeus protect the evil characters from their own immune abilities?

hi123 · « **Reply #5 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:22:08 PM »

Quote from: The M on August 23, 2010, 03:21:17 PM

so it would be stalemate...

Yes.

crustpope · « **Reply #6 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:23:21 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 23, 2010, 03:21:40 PM

Well apparently, Thaddeus protects lost souls from being protected from rescue...

Why doesn't it stop immunity? Also, would Thaddeus protect the evil characters from their own immune abilities?

IMO You cant protect an evil character from something that is helping him or her.

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #7 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:27:44 PM »

Thad protects everything only from ECs. So heros and doms can still get the LS's.

Daniel

Professoralstad · « **Reply #8 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:31:00 PM »

I'm not sure on this one. Like protection, I think that immunity targets the immune character. If you can be protected from protection, I would say you can be protected from immunity. But I am not completely sure.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #9 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:33:41 PM »

Another one: Could a bulletproof Samson bypass immunity by protection granted on Birth Foretold?

Master_Chi · « **Reply #10 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:34:48 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 23, 2010, 03:31:00 PM

I'm not sure on this one. Like protection, I think that immunity targets the immune character. If you can be protected from protection, I would say you can be protected from immunity. But I am not completely sure.

Is protection from protection like having a bodyguard for your bodyguard?

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on August 23, 2010, 03:33:41 PM

Another one: Could a bulletproof Samson bypass immunity by protection granted on Birth Foretold?

How does one acquire a "bulletproof" Samson?

Daniel TS RED · « **Reply #11 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:35:25 PM »

What is a bulletproof Samson?

Daniel

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #12 on:** August 23, 2010, 03:36:08 PM »

Read Birth Foretold, it'll make sense.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #13 on:** August 24, 2010, 01:59:17 AM »

No. Immunity doesn't target the other character. You'd still need to use...well, pretty much any of Green's useful battle-winners.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #14 on:** August 24, 2010, 05:13:30 AM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on August 24, 2010, 01:59:17 AM

No. Immunity doesn't target the other character. You'd still need to use...~~well, pretty much any of Green's useful battle-winners~~ Blessing of Joshua.

The question was about Samson. Some people think a 12/6 bulletproof character is better than a 7/4 bulletproof character with a better special ability and more versatile enhancements. Shhh...

Also, Polarius is right about immunity. Philistine Garrison could still block a bulletproof Samson and be immune. Immunity only targets the immune character.

As to the original question, I am becoming more and more convinced that Thaddeus would protect immune characters from becoming immune, since you can't target protected cards. So yeah, Thaddeus is crazy good.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #15 on:** August 24, 2010, 09:34:28 AM »

So, he's essentially an 8/8 FBTN character that can't be interrupted?

Awesome.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #16 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:04:09 AM »

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 24, 2010, 09:34:28 AM

So, he's essentially an 8/8 FBTN character that can't be interrupted?

Awesome.

With enough Disciples out, he's even better than that.

Smokey · « **Reply #17 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:05:59 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 24, 2010, 10:04:09 AM

Quote from: Alex_Olijar on August 24, 2010, 09:34:28 AM
So, he's essentially an 8/8 FBTN character that can't be interrupted?

Awesome.

With enough Disciples out, he's even better than that.

Why do characters like this get printed? We went from pre-block ignore and not being able to block, to CBN protection and being able to block, but not being able to do anything.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #18 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:21:47 AM »

Cannot be interrupted.

can this be prevented? or negated? and how?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #19 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:35:36 AM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on August 24, 2010, 10:21:47 AM

Cannot be interrupted.

can this be prevented? or negated? and how?

Heroes with CBI status can be prevented/negated by cards like Confusion of Mind, Image of Jealousy, Destructive Sin, etc.

As to Thaddeus, End the Battle cards, Unholy Writ, Magic Charms, Christian Martyr, and Big EC's are all possible answers. There is not much Thaddeus can do against a TFG with a few negates, as Authority of Christ Promo is the only dependable CBN battle winner he can use. So yeah, he's just someone you need to watch out for when facing a Disciples deck. But he's no Job.

TheJaylor · « **Reply #20 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:42:21 AM »

oh i already can't wait for the next set!

Smokey · « **Reply #21 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:44:42 AM »

Quote from: KoalaKingofFortressAlstad on August 24, 2010, 10:42:21 AM

This set's lame, roll out the next one.

crustpope · « **Reply #22 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:44:53 AM »

Quote from: KoalaKingofFortressAlstad on August 24, 2010, 10:42:21 AM

oh i already can't wait for the next set!

Really? bored with disciples already? sheesh

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #23 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:56:47 AM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 24, 2010, 05:13:30 AM

The question was about Samson. Some people think a 12/6 bulletproof character is better than a 7/4 bulletproof character with a better special ability and more versatile enhancements. Shhh...

Who needs versatile enhancements, when you can instantly become CBN super-protected 22/10 with a single enhancement?

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #24 on:** August 24, 2010, 10:58:03 AM »

Or 26/CBNIMMUNE

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