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You see?  I don't get headaches when I fish. 

I think this is a bad ruling because If I have my LS in a green site when I play ANB, then at the time the card was played, My EC's were protected from the ANB because they were immune to green brigade enhancements.  At the same time, if I have EC's in Kingdoms, at the time the card was played, they were protected from the effect. 

The 'lost protection' idea from the REG brought up the argument that the Color Guard wouldn't protect EC's from ANB a long time ago (like, before I took a year+ long absence from the boards), and it was ruled then that the REG was wrong, but that Kingdoms was different because of the cards follow hosts line of thinking. So the characters definitely don't lose protection, they just get tossed in the ocean with the concrete bunker they are in. 

The REG also states that when a card (other than a site with Lost Souls in it) is discarded that the contents are discarded in it. We went through this many years ago, and that should be how the REG should be interpretted. Perhaps the wording isn't clear.

The protect SA on Goshen really does not apply to characters since they aren't being targeted - Goshen is being targetted and it isn't protected. This has everything to do with (1) the fortress is being discarded (2) the characters are in it, and (3) character cards go to the discard pile with the fortress.

Did I fall asleep at some point and miss a new ruling in the past year? Are players really taking characters out of Goshen and putting them in territory when ANB is played?

Mike

The REG also states that when a card (other than a site with Lost Souls in it) is discarded that the contents are discarded in it. We went through this many years ago, and that should be how the REG should be interpretted. Perhaps the wording isn't clear.

The problem here is that the REG quote that you pointed to in your last post states that ECs in KotW do NOT follow KotW if it is discarded, but return to territory instead.

Did I fall asleep at some point and miss a new ruling in the past year? Are players really taking characters out of Goshen and putting them in territory when ANB is played?

Don't worry, I think that everyone is still shuffling GCs in Goshen and ECs in KotW when people play ANB.  But it does seem inconsistent with the old ruling mentioned above.  And it also seems inconsistent with the new REG definition that Tim just posted that would save Sadducees from the game rule causing a discard effect.