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Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on July 13, 2009, 01:15:45 AMI am wearing an armor proof vest, I cannot die to a bullet, however I could still die of natural causes say a massive heart failure.The Vest is PoA, the Heart attack is losing to the numbers.I'm not sure this is an accurate analogy, since losing by the numbers is not natural causes. The evil force is causing the kill.
I am wearing an armor proof vest, I cannot die to a bullet, however I could still die of natural causes say a massive heart failure.The Vest is PoA, the Heart attack is losing to the numbers.
Quote from: FresnoRedemption on July 13, 2009, 01:25:08 AMQuote from: Red Dragon Thorn on July 13, 2009, 01:15:45 AMI am wearing an armor proof vest, I cannot die to a bullet, however I could still die of natural causes say a massive heart failure.The Vest is PoA, the Heart attack is losing to the numbers.I'm not sure this is an accurate analogy, since losing by the numbers is not natural causes. The evil force is causing the kill.The Bullet is his Special ability, not all EC's have an SA/Bullet.His numbers he always has so they're natural.
I am going to shoot myself if we have this argument again. *Sigh*
Protection of AngelsType: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 2 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: Interrupt the battle and protect all Heroes in play and set aside areas from evil cards until end of turn.Protection from "evil cards" includes both special abilities and numbers.A character protected by Protection of Angels can still be targeted by a negate ability because negate > protection - always, even when it doesn't directly target the protection.
I remember 100% that the ruling stated that protect does NOTHING against any form of negate. The only way to protect from a negate is with Cannot be Negated.
Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 13, 2009, 01:40:41 PMI remember 100% that the ruling stated that protect does NOTHING against any form of negate. The only way to protect from a negate is with Cannot be Negated.
Quote from: BrianGabe on July 13, 2009, 01:57:10 PMQuote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 13, 2009, 01:40:41 PMI remember 100% that the ruling stated that protect does NOTHING against any form of negate. The only way to protect from a negate is with Cannot be Negated.
Wait... Gabe just agreed with me that you are protected from numbers, but that was not the current ruling on this thread. Anyone else official wanna comment?
Negative EffectA negative effect is any effect from cards not of the same alignment (i.e., good, evil, or neutral) targeting a character.
QuoteNegative EffectA negative effect is any effect from cards not of the same alignment (i.e., good, evil, or neutral) targeting a character.and i just got this quote from here...http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=6537.0does this mean anything?
So the rulebook definition of "protect" is irrelevant here? I think it's time to rethink my return to hosting....
The ruling is protect only protects against SAs, not numbers.
Protection from "evil cards" includes both special abilities and numbers.
Idea:Lets not get into this argument again, but rather wait on someone who MADE the ruling to swing by and set the record straight again.Less headaches.
Seemed my comment got ignored... so I'll post it again.Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 13, 2009, 09:44:40 AMIdea:Lets not get into this argument again, but rather wait on someone who MADE the ruling to swing by and set the record straight again.Less headaches.
