Author Topic: Protection of Angels (Read 16041 times)

metalpsalm · « **on:** July 11, 2009, 01:43:13 PM »

Have we figured out how this is played yet? It was argued about a while ago, but I never got to the end of it.

Interrupt the battle and protect all Heroes in play and set aside areas from evil cards until end of turn.

Protect from evil cards?
That's really broad

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 11, 2009, 02:30:30 PM »

I think it was concluded that "protect from evil cards" means "protect from evil special abilities."

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #2 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:20:56 PM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 11, 2009, 02:30:30 PM

I think it was concluded that "protect from evil cards" means "protect from evil special abilities."

And evil characters and curses. It is broad but it says what it means, all heroes in play cannot be harmed in any way by evil cards.

metalpsalm · « **Reply #3 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:24:32 PM »

so you basically have to be beaten by the numbers, right?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #4 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:37:38 PM »

The end of that argument was this.

PoA protects from every evil ability except negates. Negate is not classified as "Harm" IIRC, so Twelve Fingers could negate a band even if PoA is active.

*EDIT*

I think you are protected from numbers as well...

lightningninja · « **Reply #5 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:39:15 PM »

Yep, if that card is not negated heroes WILL NOT DIE from anything evil.

adamfincher · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2009, 04:47:38 PM »

wow, uber awesomeness.....

metalpsalm · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2009, 05:15:36 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on July 11, 2009, 04:37:38 PM

The end of that argument was this.

PoA protects from every evil ability except negates. Negate is not classified as "Harm" IIRC, so Twelve Fingers could negate a band even if PoA is active.

*EDIT*

I think you are protected from numbers as well...

That's what they were arguing about. Any ruling on that?

lightningninja · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2009, 06:01:59 PM »

You CAN negate it. It's always been that way, some people just argued against it anyways.

metalpsalm · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2009, 06:03:34 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on July 11, 2009, 06:01:59 PM

You CAN negate it. It's always been that way, some people just argued against it anyways.

No, the protect from numbers part

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2009, 06:07:04 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on July 11, 2009, 06:01:59 PM

You CAN negate it. It's always been that way, some people just argued against it anyways.

Yeah, thats obvious, but it doesnt protect from ANY negate. So, the question was if a band had PoA played on them, if 12-fingered Giant could negate the band without negating PoA. The ruling was that He indeed could negate the band while PoA was going.

lightningninja · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2009, 06:16:36 PM »

Yes, absolutely. You can negate anyone's ability while they are protected.

And yes again, you ARE protected from numbers.

D-man · « **Reply #12 on:** July 11, 2009, 06:59:49 PM »

I agree. It says to protect from all evil cards. If your Heroes lose by numbers, then they are being directly harmed by an evil card because losing by the numbers causes them to be discarded. It doesn't say "evil SAs", it says "evil cards".

SirNobody · « **Reply #13 on:** July 12, 2009, 12:36:56 AM »

Hey,

"Protect

Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 11, 2009, 02:30:30 PM

I think it was concluded that "protect from evil cards" means "protect from evil special abilities."

Correct. Strength and Toughness are not special abilities, Protection of Angels does not protect you from being defeated by the numbers.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

FresnoRedemption · « **Reply #14 on:** July 12, 2009, 12:52:54 AM »

Quote from: SirNobody on July 12, 2009, 12:36:56 AM

Hey,

"Protect
Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 11, 2009, 02:30:30 PM
I think it was concluded that "protect from evil cards" means "protect from evil special abilities."

Correct. Strength and Toughness are not special abilities, Protection of Angels does not protect you from being defeated by the numbers.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

This is good to know. I have a friend who constantly thwarts my plans by playing Protection of Angels. I'm glad I can still at least defeat his heroes when he plays that card.

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #15 on:** July 12, 2009, 02:38:22 PM »

Quote from: FresnoRedemption on July 12, 2009, 12:52:54 AM

Quote from: SirNobody on July 12, 2009, 12:36:56 AM
Hey,

"Protect
Quote from: BubbleBoy on July 11, 2009, 02:30:30 PM
I think it was concluded that "protect from evil cards" means "protect from evil special abilities."

Correct. Strength and Toughness are not special abilities, Protection of Angels does not protect you from being defeated by the numbers.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

This is good to know. I have a friend who constantly thwarts my plans by playing Protection of Angels. I'm glad I can still at least defeat his heroes when he plays that card.

When did this happen? It doesn't say protect from evil special abilities it says evil cards, which includes characters. That makes me assume that being protected from a character would be just like being immune to them, in which case you would be protected from being defeated by the numbers.

YourMathTeacher · « **Reply #16 on:** July 12, 2009, 02:40:41 PM »

The rulebook glossary defines "protect" as only protecting from special abilities.

D-man · « **Reply #17 on:** July 12, 2009, 03:58:54 PM »

Hmm...that clears it up. I should read the rulebook more often.

lightningninja · « **Reply #18 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:14:20 AM »

Then I think that should be changed. If you are protected, how can you get killed?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #19 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:15:45 AM »

I am wearing an armor proof vest, I cannot die to a bullet, however I could still die of natural causes say a massive heart failure.

The Vest is PoA, the Heart attack is losing to the numbers.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #20 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:17:01 AM »

I am going to shoot myself if we have this argument again. *Sigh*

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #21 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:20:44 AM »

Be sure to wear that bullet proof vest to protect yourself.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #22 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:21:44 AM »

Then I'll just die of hypertension.

FresnoRedemption · « **Reply #23 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:25:08 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on July 13, 2009, 01:15:45 AM

I am wearing an armor proof vest, I cannot die to a bullet, however I could still die of natural causes say a massive heart failure.

The Vest is PoA, the Heart attack is losing to the numbers.

I'm not sure this is an accurate analogy, since losing by the numbers is not natural causes. The evil force is causing the kill.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #24 on:** July 13, 2009, 01:27:21 AM »

I am holding a shield (PoA). The enemy attack with a sword and fails (abilities). My enemy then pries it away and beats me to death (losing by the numbers).

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Author Topic: Protection of Angels (Read 16041 times)

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