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It may be transferred in terms of control, but the ability was activated when it was "opponent's card", so I would lean toward Gideon still being protected.

Good question though, I'd like to hear other input on this one, not sure it is necessarily cut and dry.

So is the decision that Gideon is protected?

Gideon isn't just protected from opponent's cards, he is protected from opponents (so even cards that are used by an opponent that he doesn't own/control). Since the opponent is using the discard ability, it still can't target Gideon when rescued.

In cases where cards are protected from opponents' cards, I'd have to agree that they could be discarded once the LS is rescued.

I agree with your first part after reviewing responses, but I think the second part is less cut-and-dry.  At what point is it "opponent's card" if they used the ability that placed it?  At what point in the ability?

However, is there even a situation where this could happen?

As for whether there is ever a situation where this could happen? Probably not, but we here in the Rulings Board thrive on hypotheticals...

Then, if you don't mind, I want to hash out this hypothetical, because this is fun   May matter at some point, but fun is more important!

Thus, by the time the Hero is targeted, it is no longer your opponent's card (because he doesn't control it) nor is it your card (since you don't own it) hence it is in the nebulous "no-man's land" of possession.

Well, if it is neither "mine" nor "yours", then how can it know "if you played an enhancement in battle"?  It can only know that condition is activated if it is actually an ongoing ability that was already activated when it was "your" card, and therefore the targeting was already in play.

Since the ongoing ability was activated as "yours" and the targeting made, pending for the end of battle, wouldn't that make it "your" card for the purposes of ownership of ability?

Please note, I still don't have an answer I'm 100% comfortable with, but since you're doing a good job arguing that side, I might as well represent the other in this hypothetical

I reserve the right to argue the other side on this in the future if (when) there is a card that this matters for! 

But no, I understand that.  I was hoping there would be an easy way to make this less messy, and while I'm still torn on this, I can see the reasoning for that ruling.