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1. You have to deactivate your art, activate MC, and then place it on your magician.

2. Correct.  It has been ruled this way.

3. Sounds right to me.

It is read from the controller's point of view.  If it tells me it protects "your" magicians, it protects all the magicians I own + control.  That would be all the magicians in my territory except the one Magic Charms is on, as that is my opponent's magician.

pg panic demon?

I think I get it now, but my brain hurts a little.

Who uses SWS anyways?

SWS?

Quote from: sk on August 24, 2010, 09:40:13 AM

It is read from the controller's point of view.  If it tells me it protects "your" magicians, it protects all the magicians I own + control.  That would be all the magicians in my territory except the one Magic Charms is on, as that is my opponent's magician.

That wasn't his question, and you bring up an interesting point. Can you still have ownership and control of something in an opponent's territory?

Actually that was my question.  And the magicians in question here are in the owner's territory, with the owner being my opponent.  If my opponent exchanges SWS for my magician holding Magic Charms, and he has his own magicians in his own territory, then all of his magicians are "his" by ownership and control.  And that is why I think they would be protected via Magic Charms.  The only one that wouldn't be protected would be the magician actually holding Magic Charms...  Ironic 

Hey,

1) No you do not have to deactivate the artifact on your artifact pile to activate Magic Charms on your Magician.

2) Banding to your magician that has Magic Charms on him does not allow your opponent to use your Magic Charms.

3) Stealing a magician holding Magic Charms with Seven Wicked Spirits does not give your opponent's magicians protection from capture and conversion.

Placed cards are controlled by the player that placed them regardless of where on the playing surface they are.  (Artifacts activated by an activate an artifact ability like the one on magic charms are considered placed cards.)

Taking control of a magician that is holding Magic Charms (permanently or temporarily) does not take control of Magic Charms.  If you band to my magician or steal it with Seven Wicked Spirits, you control the magician, but I still control the Magic Charms that is on him.  Magic Charms still protects my magicians and I can still discard Magic Charms to capture humans during battle.  But if I don't regain control of the magician Magic Charms is on by my next prep phase then I cannot reactivate Magic Charms on the same magician; I either have to activate it on a different magician or deactivate it.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Contest: artifacts deactivating and reactivating is a highly contested "ruling" and none of the elders/PTB other than Nobody have confirmed it. A lot of reasons why that isn't/shouldn't be how artifact activation works are still unanswered, and the silence by all the PTB other than the most controversial and often-wrong one is suspicious.

I agree with Nobody's answer for 1. it's in the identifier line, thus making it so that you don't have to activate it to take affect.

Actually, if that's the case then you agree with me on that ruling.

1) No you do not have to deactivate the artifact on your artifact pile to activate Magic Charms on your Magician.

Contest: artifacts deactivating and reactivating is a highly contested "ruling" and none of the elders/PTB other than Nobody have confirmed it. A lot of reasons why that isn't/shouldn't be how artifact activation works are still unanswered, and the silence by all the PTB other than the most controversial and often-wrong one is suspicious.

I'm confused.