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Title: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: JSB23 on February 21, 2011, 03:26:35 PM
Isn't one of the main tenants of Christianity that no human is beyond God's capacity to redeem?
If so then why are there Evil Characters that are protected from conversion?
Isn't that saying that some people just can't be saved by God's grace?
 


Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: browarod on February 21, 2011, 03:32:03 PM
I think it's more to make the specific characters more Biblically accurate. Haman, for example, was a very evil man who did very evil things of which Zeresh participated in, so it makes some sense that they would be so against atonement and repentance that their characters in Redemption would be stuck in the evil realm.
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: JSB23 on February 21, 2011, 03:38:29 PM
So you're saying Haman was so evil he couldn't repent?
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: TheHobbit13 on February 21, 2011, 03:39:28 PM
No, its saying that Holy Grail+ TGT got out of control. The point is, its a card game and many of the functions  are put in place sake of better game play.


Isn't one of the main tenants of Christianity that no human is beyond God's capacity to redeem?
If so then why are there Evil Characters that are protected from conversion?
Isn't that saying that some people just can't be saved by God's grace?



It could be saying they are not willing to follow God. God's grace doesn't save people who are unreceptive and unwilling to believe. Either way I wouldn't read to much into it.



You could also make an argument that Falling Away is against the Christian beliefs, and Sog+NJ should be able to rescue the N.T and star four souls. But don't, because it doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: JSB23 on February 21, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
so which takes precedent, theology or gameplay?
(see captured demons thread)
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: TheHobbit13 on February 21, 2011, 03:46:37 PM
so which takes precedent, theology or gameplay?
(see captured demons thread)

Gameplay, that is why I disagree with the capture demons thread. It seems that this is just an exception.
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: SomeKittens on February 21, 2011, 03:48:00 PM
The "Captured Demons" rule is one of the rare exceptions.
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: JSB23 on February 21, 2011, 03:50:43 PM
The "Captured Demons" rule is one of the rare exceptions.
But why is it an exception?
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: Warrior_Monk on February 21, 2011, 04:00:05 PM
Because it doesn't affect gameplay that much, and when that is the case, biblical accuracy kicks in.
Title: Re: Protected from Conversion?
Post by: Minister Polarius on February 21, 2011, 08:01:15 PM
Also, all the characters who are protected from Conversion didn't get converted in the Bible. So it's actually more accurate compared to the norm where you can have people like Pharaoh coming to repentance.
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