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Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« on: June 04, 2010, 08:06:29 AM »
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My opponent RAs against me with a Red hero, I block with an immune EC.  I have Assyrian Camp in my territory and Covenant of Eden active.  Opponent plays Freedom! and targets an Assyrian in my territory.  What happens?

Assyrian Camp - "Protect Assyrian Evil Characters in your territory from discard, conversion, and capture unless King Hezekiah is in play or set aside."

Covenant of Eden - "Use as an enhancement or an Artifact.  No character may be removed from the game.  Instead discard the character targeted for removal."

Freedom! - "Remove one Evil Character from the game."
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2010, 08:09:17 AM »
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This is just a gut feeling, but I'm pretty sure the Assyrian is discarded.
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2010, 08:14:25 AM »
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The Assyrian is discarded because the Assyrian is in battle, and not protected by Assyrian Camp so it is discarded via Covenant of Eden's special ability.
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #3 on: June 04, 2010, 08:55:00 AM »
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The Assyrian is discarded because the Assyrian is in battle, and not protected by Assyrian Camp so it is discarded via Covenant of Eden's special ability.

Opponent plays Freedom! and targets an Assyrian in my territory.  What happens?
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #4 on: June 04, 2010, 09:41:26 AM »
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the character sits in your territory wondering what just missed him by a mile and your opponent gets to add the numbers on Freedom to his chara...ooohh...

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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #5 on: June 04, 2010, 10:03:26 AM »
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the character sits in your territory wondering what just missed him by a mile and your opponent gets to add the numbers on Freedom to his chara...ooohh...

+1  Covenant of Eden replaces removal with discard and the Assyrian is protected from discard so nothing happens.
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #6 on: June 04, 2010, 10:03:44 AM »
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Freedom has no numbers, so it is still his initiative unless it was mutual destruction. Other than that, nothing happens.
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #7 on: June 04, 2010, 10:15:10 AM »
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Opponent plays Freedom! and targets an Assyrian in my territory.

 :doh:  Yeah missed that.  I am not an elder but  +1 with Gabe.
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #8 on: June 04, 2010, 07:51:52 PM »
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the character sits in your territory wondering what just missed him by a mile and your opponent gets to add the numbers on Freedom to his chara...ooohh...

+1  Covenant of Eden replaces removal with discard and the Assyrian is protected from discard so nothing happens.
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Re: Protect fort + Covenant of Eden
« Reply #9 on: June 05, 2010, 06:50:22 AM »
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This is a key concept in my "bulletproof angels" offense, to protect them from removal with Covenant of Eden, quasi-protect them from discard with Chamber of Angels, and protect them from capture with Fourth Living Creature.  For added goodness, toss CoE into Book of the Covenant alongside I Am Justice to make a loss bite back at the opponent, or better still, with I Am Holy to make the opponent discard from hand, and keep discarding and recycling your numerous angels in hand.

It has its weak points - there is growing strengths in strategies other than discard/remove and capture these days and the Angel Wars Heroes only protect from a few of the more sneaky ninja blocks, and 4LC does not protect any of the Big Four - but I have fun playing with them.  It's also fun to have Arianna and Kira in there so that angels can still go after any of the common restricting Lost Souls (female, NT, */4).

 


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