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Promo question
« on: June 12, 2017, 03:55:08 PM »
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If I go to 2 state tournaments can I play The Fearless Traveler in the second one I attend?

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #1 on: June 12, 2017, 04:00:30 PM »
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If I go to 2 state tournaments can I play The Fearless Traveler in the second one I attend?

A new state promo can only be used at Regional and National tournaments the year it is released.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #2 on: June 12, 2017, 04:06:50 PM »
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so will the new Job only be legal at nationals this year?

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #3 on: June 12, 2017, 04:08:56 PM »
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so will the new Job only be legal at nationals this year?

Yes.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #4 on: June 12, 2017, 06:30:04 PM »
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does this also apply to local and district promos?
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2017, 06:36:56 PM »
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Local and district promos can be used at any tournament occurring after the very first one in which they are given out that season.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2017, 07:10:57 PM »
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Can all of this be codified somewhere, please, if it isn't already? It is confusing to say certain new promos can be used in some tournaments while others can't.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2017, 07:33:36 PM »
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It should be in the host materials if it's not.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2017, 10:04:17 PM »
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I think this is more important to players than hosts.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #9 on: June 13, 2017, 06:32:15 AM »
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I think this is more important to players than hosts.

The fact that hosts have/should have this information means players should know it. If Hosts are maintaining the rules on Promo use then players should be hearing said rules when these questions arise at tournaments.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #10 on: June 13, 2017, 07:12:31 AM »
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It should be in the host materials if it's not.

It's not. I double checked.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #11 on: June 13, 2017, 10:11:04 AM »
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I know we (as the Elder team) have said this before, but one of the projects we will soon be tackling is a major update to the tournament host guide, which would include information such as this. It's obviously long overdue, but our priorities have been focused on the new set and REG updates.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #12 on: June 13, 2017, 06:17:40 PM »
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Local and district promos can be used at any tournament occurring after the very first one in which they are given out that season.

To make sure I'm understanding this correctly I want to present this scenario:

Host A of Wherever, FL, is the first person in the country to host a local tournament in which the new promo (the Watchman) is the participant promo. Nobody can use the promo in that tournament.

Two weeks later, Host B of Whosville, GA, is hosting the second local tournament in the country in which this promo is also being given out as the participant promo.

Can the participants of Host B's tournament use the promo they just received from Host B, or do they have to wait until the next tournament to use it (local, district, or otherwise)?
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #13 on: June 13, 2017, 06:21:10 PM »
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You never could use the promo at the tournament you got it from.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #14 on: June 13, 2017, 06:21:49 PM »
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You never could use the promo at the tournament you got it from.
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #15 on: June 13, 2017, 06:34:01 PM »
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You never could use the promo at the tournament you got it from.

From my understanding I thought a player could use the promo if the promo had already been released in a prior tournament (i.e., I host a local tournament next month and the promo is Crowds LS. One of the players wants to add it to his deck before deck check-in and he can do this as it has already been released for over a year).
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #16 on: June 13, 2017, 06:54:42 PM »
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I always thought you couldn't play with the promotional card that you got in the tournament that you received it at. I thought it was based on you as a player not when the card was released.

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #17 on: June 13, 2017, 07:29:27 PM »
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I always thought you couldn't play with the promotional card that you got in the tournament that you received it at. I thought it was based on you as a player not when the card was released.

This was the rule many, many years ago. It has been updated as stated above.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #18 on: June 13, 2017, 10:22:18 PM »
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I always thought you couldn't play with the promotional card that you got in the tournament that you received it at. I thought it was based on you as a player not when the card was released.

This was the rule many, many years ago. It has been updated as stated above.

I kinda have an issue with that because you shouldn't be able to use a card at the same tournament you got it (namely because to my understanding, you should be getting at the same time as when your deck is being checked.)
They seem pretty lame as fighters maybe we should challenge them to a dance off or a redemption game

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #19 on: June 14, 2017, 10:34:29 AM »
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Promos are received when players sign-in, not when they get their deck checked.

The rule has been changed for many, many years and I don't foresee it being something we are going to revisit. In fact, this past year Rob graciously allowed players to use the new Noah's Ark promo at Nationals despite that being the first tournament where it was given out (since the Flood Survivors theme didn't really work without it).

If I remember correctly, the reason for not allowing promos to be used at the same tournament in which they are received was because we did not want to put players at a disadvantage who had never seen them before. However, in recent years we have been spoiling and previewing cards much, much earlier so that players have a fair chance to see them before they attend a tournament. Sure not all of them will, but it would not be from a lack of opportunity since new cards (sets and promos) are previewed either here or Land of Redemption a minimum of weeks in advance of their release.

The current system gives players the most leeway in using new promos without putting a player at a disadvantage if his state or regional tournament is later in the season and he doesn't have the opportunity to get them until much later than a player in the region next to him. (i.e. I received a Job promo from SW regionals last weekend--it would be unfair for me to use Job at MN state this coming weekend since the North Central Regionals has not happened yet.)
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #20 on: June 14, 2017, 11:22:39 AM »
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Justin, would you mind confirming my question/scenario from a few posts up?

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Re: Promo question
« Reply #21 on: June 14, 2017, 11:28:40 AM »
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Local and district promos (regardless of when they are received) can be used at any tournament occurring after the very first one in which they are given out that season.
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Re: Promo question
« Reply #22 on: June 14, 2017, 12:45:54 PM »
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Ok so once they are released at the tournament that season that they're first being released at they can be used not at that tournament but all subsequent tournaments.

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