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Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« on: June 18, 2018, 12:27:24 AM »
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Pharaoh's Daughter SA: Your exodus characters of matching alignment and Exodus enhancements used by them CBI (correction CBP) . CBI

Leviathan good enhancement 12/5-  SA If your Job character blocks , you may take an evil job card from Reserve. If your animal blocks , you may take an animal from deck. Protect Job animals from opponent's Dominants. CBN


1. Since Pharaoh's Daughter herself is also considered "your exodus hero"  is her SA CBP along with any exodus played by her??

2. Coliseum tosses all enhancements with no SA. Is the good enhancement part of Leviathan considered a blue enhancement with no SA??
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2018, 12:30:42 AM »
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1. The condition on Pharaoh's Daughter only grants CBP to the Exodus characters (including herself) and Enhancements. She has an additional modifier that makes her CBI because Moses.

2. No, but it is an enhancement with CBN in the ability, so it's still tossed by Coliseum.
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2018, 12:37:32 AM »
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Quote from: RedemptionAggie on June 18, 2018, 12:30:42 AM
1. The condition on Pharaoh's Daughter only grants CBP to the Exodus characters (including herself) and Enhancements. She has an additional modifier that makes her CBI because Moses.

2. No, but it is an enhancement with CBN in the ability, so it's still tossed by Coliseum.


So for question 1 even though she is an exodus character herself , she does not gain CBP to her own ability or any exodus enhancements played by her?? Would this be correct??
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2018, 12:39:31 AM »
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She's an Exodus character, so she grants CBP to herself and any Exodus Enhancements she uses. Your first post uses CBI in both sentences, which threw me a bit.
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2018, 12:42:19 AM »
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Quote from: RedemptionAggie on June 18, 2018, 12:39:31 AM
She's an Exodus character, so she grants CBP to herself and any Exodus Enhancements she uses. Your first post uses CBI in both sentences, which threw me a bit.

oops I meant to put CBP.

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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2018, 11:30:49 AM »
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Just wondering why there is no SA for the good enh side? What was the reasoning behind it?
« Last Edit: June 18, 2018, 01:34:15 PM by Watchman492 »
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2018, 01:32:18 PM »
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It has an ability, it just doesn't do anything. It has 12 strength and CBN so it gets tossed by Coliseum or Peace, which makes it a battle winner against all but an opposing Leviathan
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2018, 02:32:43 PM »
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Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on June 18, 2018, 01:32:18 PM
It has an ability, it just doesn't do anything. It has 12 strength and CBN so it gets tossed by Coliseum or Peace, which makes it a battle winner against all but an opposing Leviathan

Gotcha.  Thanks
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2018, 02:35:11 PM »
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Quote from: Watchman492 on June 18, 2018, 11:30:49 AM
Just wondering why there is no SA for the good enh side? What was the reasoning behind it?

Also, that's the direction the card designer wanted to go.  8)
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #9 on: June 18, 2018, 02:56:18 PM »
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Quote from: The Guardian on June 18, 2018, 02:35:11 PM
Quote from: Watchman492 on June 18, 2018, 11:30:49 AM
Just wondering why there is no SA for the good enh side? What was the reasoning behind it?

Also, that's the direction the card designer wanted to go.  8)

I'm fine with that I was just wondering why the good enh side didn't have a functioning SA as they normally do and what the reason was behind it.  I'm not trying to be critical of him, just inquiring.
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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #10 on: June 18, 2018, 03:13:55 PM »
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For awhile we discussed having an ability on the GE.  In the end the ability I wanted it to have was deemed to powerful by the Player Created Cards Team. Throwing in a generic ability like the negate on Behemoth was considered but seemed to bland. I preferred keeping the power level on the defensive side over trading that power  for a vanilla offensive ability.

Being a GE allows Job to tutor is from reserve or recur it. It limits Leviathan to one per t2 deck. CBN status allows it to be tossed via coliseum. It can tossed with peace.

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Re: Leviathan and Pharaoh's Daughter questions:
« Reply #11 on: June 18, 2018, 03:18:27 PM »
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Quote from: jbeers285 on June 18, 2018, 03:13:55 PM

For awhile we discussed having an ability on the GE.  In the end the ability I wanted it to have was deemed to powerful by the Player Created Cards Team. Throwing in a generic ability like the negate on Behemoth was considered but seemed to bland. I preferred keeping the power level on the defensive side over trading that power  for a vanilla offensive ability.

Being a GE allows Job to tutor is from reserve or recur it. It limits Leviathan to one per t2 deck. CBN status allows it to be tossed via coliseum. It can tossed with peace.

It's definitely strong as a GE.  And I understand the trade-off with good ability vs. EC ability.  I like the card a lot and am glad Leviathan was updated.  It was desperately needed.
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