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Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« on: August 10, 2009, 10:58:30 PM »
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If I play Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice, and I choose to remove one enhancement in my opponent's set-aside area from the game, what happens to the character(s) that are set-aside by that enhancement?

Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 0 / 6 • Class: None • Special Ability: Remove one Hero and/or one Enhancement in opponent’s set-aside area from the game. • Identifiers: OT, False Religious Practice • Verse: I Samuel 13:9 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Common)

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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2009, 12:01:21 AM »
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since it says and/or, why would you just remove the enhancement and not the hero too?
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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2009, 12:02:25 AM »
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To kind of go along with this, do "set aside" enhancements actually go to the set aside area or do they simply send heros there.  I'm thinking of Provisions, pentecost and things like that. I don't have those cards with me to type the SAs.  That may answer part of the question Ken raised because if cards like pentecost only send characters there and doesn't go as well then you wouldn't be able to discard it.  I have always put the enhancement in set aside with the characters but that may be simply so I know what is happening and not so much because of SA.
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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2009, 12:03:40 AM »
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since it says and/or, why would you just remove the enhancement and not the hero too?

What if the enhancement sets aside like 4 heroes and you want to stop the set asides ability so when the other 3 return it doesn't work.  I think that is what Ken is looking for.
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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2009, 12:09:14 AM »
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since it says and/or, why would you just remove the enhancement and not the hero too?

What if the enhancement sets aside like 4 heroes and you want to stop the set asides ability so when the other 3 return it doesn't work.  I think that is what Ken is looking for.

That's correct - I was wondering if it worked like that.

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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2009, 12:41:03 AM »
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Yeah.  If u discard the set aside enhancement, its effect goes along with it.  It's like if someone sets their ENTIRE offense aside with pentecost.  You activate darius's decree, and KABOOM. their offense dies and the set-aside enhancement is discarded as well.  No drawing for them. ;D
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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2009, 01:18:23 AM »
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since it says and/or, why would you just remove the enhancement and not the hero too?

What if the enhancement sets aside like 4 heroes and you want to stop the set asides ability so when the other 3 return it doesn't work.  I think that is what Ken is looking for.

That, or what if the set-aside character is an EC?

I'm not actually sure what happens. I couldn't find anything in the REG that says that the set-aside characters are dependent on the set-aside enhancement being there. But then, there seem to be a lot of portions of the set-aside area of the REG that seem due for a major overhaul, which I'm guessing will happen with the new release of the REG.

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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2009, 08:37:22 PM »
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Set-aside cards are supposed to go with the characters. That was intended to prevent you from putting the set-aside cards in the discard pile and retrieving them before they were completed the first time. Talk about time-looping.

*edit* See http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/howtouse91.htm in the REG.

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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2009, 09:10:03 PM »
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Set-aside cards are supposed to go with the characters. That was intended to prevent you from putting the set-aside cards in the discard pile and retrieving them before they were completed the first time. Talk about time-looping.

*edit* See http://www.redemptionreg.com/REG/howtouse91.htm in the REG.

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Right, I think we've all seen/heard that. The question is, does discarding/removing the set-aside enhancement bring back the set-aside character? That's what I couldn't find out.
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Re: Saul's Disobedient Sacrifice
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2009, 04:39:05 AM »
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Hey,

I found the following statements in the next REG that relate to dependencies between cards set aside together:

"When all of the cards a set aside enhancement set aside have left the set-aside area they were in, the set aside enhancement is discarded."

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"If a set aside ability gives a beneficial effect to the characters that are set aside or the player that set them aside, and sets more than one character aside, if one of those characters is removed from the set-aside area prematurely, the other characters set aside with it immediately return to their owner's territories and no further benefits are gained for the set aside effect."

There is no statement in the next REG that says the set-aside enhancement must remain with the character while it is set-aside for the character to gain the effect of being set-aside, so discarding just the set-aside enhancement would have no affect on the character benefiting from being set aside.

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