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Priestly Breastplate...
« on: May 02, 2010, 01:33:16 PM »
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Hey Guys,  :)

My friend and I were playing recently and this question came up during the game.  ???
The special ability of the Priestly breastplate artifact in the Priest expasion states, "Negate all ignore and repel abilities on Characters and Enhancements. May be placed on a good Hight Priest when activated."

Does this mean if I place it on a good High Priest, I can activate another artifact in the artifact pile. The reason I ask is because the rule for artifacts state that only one can be active in the pile. Technically, it is not in the pile, so then it gives the possibility to activate another one.
What do you guys think?

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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2010, 01:37:30 PM »
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Yes you can have another artifact active in your artifact pile because priestly breastplate is active on a hero.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2010, 01:50:25 PM »
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Thank you very much!  ;D
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2010, 11:33:35 PM »
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Actually....you can't.

Because of the wording on it, you have to activate it on the artifact pile and then move it to the High Priest.

rust me, I know...I tried this in my T2 deck but was told I couldn't (not only that, but if you do put it on the priest, the next turn, you have to deactivate it in your artifact pile).

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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2010, 11:34:46 PM »
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Actually....you can't.

Because of the wording on it, you have to activate it on the artifact pile and then move it to the High Priest.

rust me, I know...I tried this in my T2 deck but was told I couldn't (not only that, but if you do put it on the priest, the next turn, you have to deactivate it in your artifact pile).

Ok, now I am confused...
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #5 on: May 03, 2010, 12:32:25 AM »
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #6 on: May 03, 2010, 04:10:53 PM »
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Here's the tread with the ruling.

Ok that clears it up a little...but if there is no advantage to it for the activation of other artfiacts, I guess the ability to place it on a high priest is useless...
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2010, 04:43:38 PM »
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It isn't useless.  PB remains active on your High Priest indefinitely..right?  Then you could activate a different artifact next turn.

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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #8 on: May 03, 2010, 04:57:20 PM »
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It isn't useless.  PB remains active on your High Priest indefinitely..right?  Then you could activate a different artifact next turn.
Not according to the thread linked to above.  I'm not sure if it is the correct ruling since a PTB didn't get involved, but if it's right, then PB is close to useless.

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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #9 on: May 03, 2010, 07:27:15 PM »
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Yeah, I was aware of SirNobody saying that arts are active for one round, but I guess I was hoping that PB would somehow still work.  Oh well.  I guess we'll put on the shelf next to Split Altar. ;)

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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #10 on: May 03, 2010, 07:40:59 PM »
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Sir Nobody is not official, and tons of objections have been brought up to how he describes Arts working. I forget what it is now, but there was one example that showed he was just plain wrong. But the PTB have still not actually ruled one way or the other.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #11 on: May 03, 2010, 07:43:27 PM »
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Wait a minute... so if SirNobody is correct... you can't activate another artifact the same turn you placed it on your priest, and, next turn, you have to reactivate it because it doesn't stay on your priest? Lame...
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #12 on: May 03, 2010, 07:44:31 PM »
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Sir Nobody is as official as they come without being named Rob or Bryon.

He's a playtester, high-level tournament host, writer of the new REG, and moderator of this section.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #13 on: May 03, 2010, 07:47:01 PM »
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He's less official than Schaef, Rob, Bryon, and Gabe. Last I checked, he doesn't have rubber-stamp authority and I hope he never gets it on account of how often he's wrong.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #14 on: May 03, 2010, 07:57:40 PM »
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He's more official than you. And as of the current moment he's more official than Gabe. I won't argue Scheaf though. And no he doesn't have rubber-stamp, but until one of the other big guys says contrary to him his ruling should be considered official.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #15 on: May 03, 2010, 07:59:47 PM »
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I do not agree and will not do so. He's been wrong as often as right, even if he is more official than me (for some reason).
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2010, 08:01:40 PM »
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You're saying that your word should be considered more official than Tim's? Last time I checked you weren't a playtester, writer of the new REG, or the moderator of this board.
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« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2010, 08:02:29 PM »
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I'm not saying I should be more official than Nobody. I'm saying neither of us are official. There's rubber stamp and then there's opinion, no shades of gray in between.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2010, 08:07:37 PM »
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Tim is wrong there if an Artifact is active it re-actavates evey round with turning face up or down so i can re-flip a new art but if that's not the case then i'v been doing it wrong for years.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2010, 08:10:40 PM »
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...high-level tournament host...

...come again? ???
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« Reply #20 on: May 03, 2010, 08:12:05 PM »
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He's hosted multiple state tournaments. He's also judged at nationals.
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« Reply #21 on: May 03, 2010, 08:17:09 PM »
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Hosting state is high-level now? Shoot, I should put in a bid for Arkansas next year so I can be official like Nobody.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #22 on: May 03, 2010, 08:21:08 PM »
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I think thats a wonderful idea, It would be nice to see Arkansas on the map. And in my mind, State is high-level. We only have 5 levels..... So it's right in the middle, and you can only have one per state. So its more restricted then local's and districs.
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« Reply #23 on: May 03, 2010, 08:22:17 PM »
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yeah, thats pretty subjective. i really wouldnt consider states high-level...especially nebraska state. :P

if we're ranking the caliber of tournaments, states is average if anything...middle of the road.
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Re: Priestly Breastplate...
« Reply #24 on: May 03, 2010, 08:28:03 PM »
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Fair enough. Even if we remove that he is still more official than anyone else except Bryon/Rob/Schaef, and I'll add Mike Berkenpas to that list.
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