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*Edit* Duh, of course they can't activate (just like weapons can't activate while unblocked). Silly me.
That being said, would they activate as soon as a blocker is presented, or is their window of activation gone?
Quote from: Praeceps on May 21, 2013, 09:09:55 PMThat being said, would they activate as soon as a blocker is presented, or is their window of activation gone?These cards say that the enhancements activate when they enter battle, so that is the time they can activate. If they don't then, they don't get to.
Quote from: Redoubter on May 21, 2013, 09:43:05 PMQuote from: Praeceps on May 21, 2013, 09:09:55 PMThat being said, would they activate as soon as a blocker is presented, or is their window of activation gone?These cards say that the enhancements activate when they enter battle, so that is the time they can activate. If they don't then, they don't get to.Technically you could still activate them off an accepted taunt.
What if you use a choose the blocker ability?If I remember correctly (and it hasn't been changed) abilities that trigger by entering battle (like preloaded enhancements or Hidden Treasures) happen after all the normal enter the battle (Character abilities, Gained Abilities, Weapons, Band, Choose the Blocker) so wouldn't they work if say the hero had some kind of choose the blocker?
Quote from: ChristianSoldier on May 21, 2013, 11:02:28 PMWhat if you use a choose the blocker ability?If I remember correctly (and it hasn't been changed) abilities that trigger by entering battle (like preloaded enhancements or Hidden Treasures) happen after all the normal enter the battle (Character abilities, Gained Abilities, Weapons, Band, Choose the Blocker) so wouldn't they work if say the hero had some kind of choose the blocker?I believe so, yes.
Special AbilitiesThese are the instructions printed on the picture of some cards. ( See Anatomy of a Card and Resolving Special Ability Combinations in the rulebook).There are two types of special abilities that define how a special ability is carried out: Ongoing Abilities and Instant Abilities. When a single card has more than one special ability ( including gained abilities), perform the abilities in this order:First, complete all special abilities in the order written on the card except those that add a character to the battle. Note that some special abilities can happen together even though they may be separated by a period.Second, if the card is a character with either a gained ability or a weapon-class enhancement, then activate the gained abilities in the order gained.Finally, activate the special abilities on the carried weapon-class enhancement.Complete banding abilities.Complete any Choose Blocker or Rescuer abilities.
They would not, because adding characters to the opposite side of battle is the FINAL FINAL step, after eeeeeeeeverything else. Enhancements like these and pre-block play like Hidden Treasures are gained abilities. From the REG:Special AbilitiesThese are the instructions printed on the picture of some cards. ( See Anatomy of a Card and Resolving Special Ability Combinations in the rulebook).There are two types of special abilities that define how a special ability is carried out: Ongoing Abilities and Instant Abilities. When a single card has more than one special ability ( including gained abilities), perform the abilities in this order:First, complete all special abilities in the order written on the card except those that add a character to the battle. Note that some special abilities can happen together even though they may be separated by a period.Second, if the card is a character with either a gained ability or a weapon-class enhancement, then activate the gained abilities in the order gained.Finally, activate the special abilities on the carried weapon-class enhancement.Complete banding abilities.Complete any Choose Blocker or Rescuer abilities.
They would not, because adding characters to the opposite side of battle is the FINAL FINAL step, after eeeeeeeeverything else. Enhancements like these and pre-block play like Hidden Treasures are gained abilities.
Quote from: Redoubter on May 22, 2013, 06:57:57 PMThey would not, because adding characters to the opposite side of battle is the FINAL FINAL step, after eeeeeeeeverything else. Enhancements like these and pre-block play like Hidden Treasures are gained abilities.Professor Alstad is correct, because Hidden Treasures and Enhancements that are placed by cards like Agur are triggered abilities, not gained abilities.
