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Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« on: August 25, 2014, 12:13:29 PM »
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Sarah’s Jealousy…

"Holder may choose the Hero opponent uses to make rescue attempt this turn.”

If the battle is already ongoing and the “opponent” has more than one Hero in battle, does this card essentially negate the other Hero’s in battle after one is chosen to defend?

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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #1 on: August 25, 2014, 12:29:18 PM »
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Chose the rescuer means that another hero, of your choice, is placed in battle instead of any/all heroes in battle, but does not negate them I believe.

Could we have some clarification?
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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #2 on: August 25, 2014, 12:34:07 PM »
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"Negate" may not be the proper word to clarify my question.  I apologize, I might have made the question more confusing.

I assume that, as you have pointed out, if a new hero begins the battle and all other Hero's exit the battle, than their Special Abilities exit the battle along with them.  This seems logical, for Special Abilities on characters do not activate until triggered by playing them in battle.

...at least that sounds correct...
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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #3 on: August 25, 2014, 12:38:51 PM »
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I believe that ongoing abilities on heroes that are out of battle are deactive, but instant abilities are still active, however, all abilities on enhancements do not deactivate.
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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #4 on: August 25, 2014, 12:45:16 PM »
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On-going abilities of Heroes that are withdrawn from battle (which happens when a "Choose the Rescuer" ability is used) continue to be active until the end of the phase.
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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #5 on: August 25, 2014, 01:09:42 PM »
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I have been in conversation with Chris Bany of Covenant Games and am establishing a player base here in Nashville, TN area.  I am a pastor and there are a lot of kids in the area who are beginning the game.  It's exciting.  However, there are questions we have regarding game-play.

On-going abilities of Heroes that are withdrawn from battle (which happens when a "Choose the Rescuer" ability is used) continue to be active until the end of the phase.

I assume, since you are a play-tester, you know what you are talking about.  However, that does't make sense to me.  If "Sarah's Jealousy" is played, allowing defender to choose who to battle, how could other Hero's who are not in the battle (back in their owner's territory?) actively influence the battle.  That doesn't make sense...

Could you explain or give an example.  Appreciate your time on this question. 
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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #6 on: August 25, 2014, 01:37:07 PM »
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I don't want to speak for you, so you can clarify if this is your position on this particular card and situation. 

I believe you are saying...

In the case where a battle has been ongoing, then the ramifications of that current battle phase, where enhancements and character abilities which have already taken place, carry forward into any further battling - even with a new character. 

This seems logical, compared to a real life situation.  In a battle, there are consequences of that battle (enhancements and abilities) which have transpired.  Those "consequences" carry forward in the event (Sarah's Jealousy) that a new battle begins during the same battle phase.

I think this is correct. 

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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #7 on: August 25, 2014, 02:25:50 PM »
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Here's another way to explain it:

When a special ability activates, it remains active for the entire phase. The only way to stop this is with a negate ability. If a card leaves battle without being negated, the ability remains active.

For example:

I make a Rescue Attempt with Jacob, who bands to Captain of the Host. You play Christian Martyr on Captain. You did not negate him, so characters and enhancements (except warrior class and banding) continue to be negated.

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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #8 on: August 25, 2014, 02:31:22 PM »
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Basically, ongoing abilities (once activated) are active until the end of the phase in which they are activated unless they are negated. It doesn't matter if the card is removed from battle, whether it be shuffled, returned to territory, captured, returned to hand, etc. As such, since Sarah's Jealousy just withdraws the Heroes, not negating them, any ongoing abilities (such as a card protecting from capture) would continue until the end of the phase and would still affect the battle after the blocker chooses a new rescuer.

Hopefully that helps. :)


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Re: Question on "Sarah's Jealousy" card
« Reply #9 on: August 25, 2014, 02:38:17 PM »
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Yeah...that's what I said...thought...   8)

Thanks a ton!!

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