Author Topic: Peter's Curse (Read 2342 times)

GraftedIn · « **on:** February 26, 2011, 09:46:23 PM »

I have two questions about Peter's Curse (a Curse card, "Place on a Hero or good Fortress: Negate that card's special ability. When you play a good Dominant, discard this Curse. Cannot be negated.")

1. How exactly is it used if you play the card as an Artifact rather than an enhancement? Do I first put it face up on the artifact pile? Can I leave it there as long as I want, as my active Artifact? Then can I (at any time) "target" it by placing it on a Hero or Good Fortress? Or must I bypass the Artifact pile and go straight to the targeted Hero or Good Fortress? (If so, doesn't that make it the same as a Territory Enhancement rather than a Curse?)

2. If I use Peter's Curse to negate Storehouse, what happens to all the enhancements stored in Storehouse? Are they discarded, or returned to the owner's hand?

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #1 on:** February 26, 2011, 09:56:35 PM »

Peter's Curse (Di)
Type: Curse • Brigade: Black/Gray • Ability: 3 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: Place on a Hero or good Fortress: Negate that card's special ability. When you play a good Dominant, discard this Curse. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Matthew 26:74 • Availability: Disciples booster packs ()

GraftedIn · « **Reply #2 on:** February 26, 2011, 10:10:21 PM »

Thank you, but I am still not clear on how the card works when played as an artifact. (I thought that's what a Curse is - can be played as an Enhancement or as an Artifact.)

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #3 on:** February 26, 2011, 10:14:18 PM »

Yea, figured Id let someone else answer this one. My guess is that the place ability activates when you activate the artifact.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #4 on:** February 26, 2011, 10:15:11 PM »

It's special ability (to place on a hero/fortress) activates when you activate the Curse.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #5 on:** February 27, 2011, 02:06:32 AM »

1. You can leave the Curse up in your artifact pile, but it won't do anything. At the time you activate it, you can place it, and it does count for your Artifact activation for that phase.

2. When Storehouse is Negated, no cards can go into or out of it. They just sit there until either the negation ends or some other mechanism moves them elsewhere (such as ANB).

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #6 on:** February 27, 2011, 06:02:34 PM »

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1. You can leave the Curse up in your artifact pile, but it won't do anything. At the time you activate it, you can place it, and it does count for your Artifact activation for that phase.

It doesnt say that you may place- does that matter and why?

SomeKittens · « **Reply #7 on:** February 27, 2011, 06:19:05 PM »

I don't think you can leave it active. Once it activates, it's placed, because there's no "may."

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #8 on:** February 27, 2011, 06:28:15 PM »

depends on how placed cards work

Professoralstad · « **Reply #9 on:** February 27, 2011, 08:38:21 PM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on February 27, 2011, 06:19:05 PM

I don't think you can leave it active. Once it activates, it's placed, because there's no "may."

Correct. When you activate Peter's Curse, you must place it on a Hero or Good Fortress then, the only exception being when there are no legal targets available. In that case, I would assume it sits there until a legal target becomes available or it is deactivated.

TheJaylor · « **Reply #10 on:** February 27, 2011, 09:13:31 PM »

I agree with all who said that you must use it right away because you cannot activate an artifact and choose not to use the ability unless it is a "may" or it is negated or there is no target.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #11 on:** February 27, 2011, 10:44:59 PM »

I was assuming there was a "may."

SomeKittens · « **Reply #12 on:** February 28, 2011, 01:06:30 AM »

Well, you know what they say about assuming....

Chronic Apathy · « **Reply #13 on:** February 28, 2011, 02:56:48 AM »

Quote from: SomeKittens on February 28, 2011, 01:06:30 AM

Well, you know what they say about assuming....

It leads to good times and never any misunderstandings?

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #14 on:** February 28, 2011, 07:54:32 AM »

It seems kinda silly for it to have numbers then. If you play it in battle, that means a hero is in play, and theres no optional ability, meaning it must be placed.

SomeKittens · « **Reply #15 on:** February 28, 2011, 10:47:13 AM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on February 28, 2011, 07:54:32 AM

It seems kinda silly for it to have numbers then. If you play it in battle, that means a hero is in play, and theres no optional ability, meaning it must be placed.

Unless I RA with FBTN.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #16 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:07:41 PM »

I thought of that too, but its CBN.

There is absolutely no time you could play that card and use its numbers.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #17 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:10:04 PM »

Only hero in play is Thad, who is protecting errything so you can't place it.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #18 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:47:33 PM »

Can you be protected from having cards placed on you? I could see placed cards working while Thadd is in battle, but the cards would be protected from their abilities (Except Peters Curse, as you cant protect from a negate except with CBN.)

Professoralstad · « **Reply #19 on:** February 28, 2011, 12:49:46 PM »

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on February 28, 2011, 12:47:33 PM

Can you be protected from having cards placed on you? I could see placed cards working while Thadd is in battle, but the cards would be protected from their abilities (Except Peters Curse, as you cant protect from a negate except with CBN.)

No. Place cards target the cards they are placed on. So I guess the only reason the numbers will take effect is when the only Heroes in play are immune to or protected from the EC that uses it.

browarod · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2011, 08:41:36 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on February 28, 2011, 12:49:46 PM

Quote from: Lamborghini_diablo on February 28, 2011, 12:47:33 PM
Can you be protected from having cards placed on you? I could see placed cards working while Thadd is in battle, but the cards would be protected from their abilities (Except Peters Curse, as you cant protect from a negate except with CBN.)

No. Place cards target the cards they are placed on. So I guess the only reason the numbers will take effect is when the only Heroes in play are immune to or protected from the EC that uses it.

In which case the numbers still wouldn't really matter, except maybe for your EC to not be dying.

Gabe · « **Reply #21 on:** March 01, 2011, 09:33:26 AM »

The numbers on Peter's Curse are mostly just symbolic of how Peter denied Christ 3 times.

GraftedIn · « **Reply #22 on:** March 05, 2011, 03:26:49 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on February 27, 2011, 08:38:21 PM

Quote from: SomeKittens on February 27, 2011, 06:19:05 PM
I don't think you can leave it active. Once it activates, it's placed, because there's no "may."

Correct. When you activate Peter's Curse, you must place it on a Hero or Good Fortress then, the only exception being when there are no legal targets available. In that case, I would assume it sits there until a legal target becomes available or it is deactivated.

Could you really let it sit there until a legal target becomes available? If so, then suppose a legal target eventually becomes available. When could you place (i.e., move from the artifact pile to the target) Peter's Curse? Only during my artifact activation phase?

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Author Topic: Peter's Curse (Read 2342 times)

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