Author Topic: Philistine Hormah (Read 11110 times)

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #25 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:23:45 PM »

That's never what it's done or been intended to do.

Master KChief · « **Reply #26 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:30:50 PM »

how exactly do you know what it was 'intended' to do?

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #27 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:31:35 PM »

I'm psychic, didn't you know?

Master KChief · « **Reply #28 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:34:44 PM »

nice...now everything makes perfect sense!

The Schaef · « **Reply #29 on:** August 24, 2009, 07:35:27 PM »

Yes, but he already knew that

lightningninja · « **Reply #30 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:06:50 PM »

Hm... I don't see how this is broken in type I. I mean... that's ONE ls... there's still so many more to rescue. It's NOT broken. Is this where I get to use my national champion prestige to try and persuade everyone? No? Darn....

In type II... well I suck at type II so I have no idea... but it still seems like it would be even less powerful, seeing that you have MORE ls, and MORE ways to get rid of sites... or even just play one of many fortress discarders.

Guys... if this errata hasn't been made... please don't make it. Please, I'd love to play someone who uses this... I doubt it would make a big impact on the game.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #31 on:** August 24, 2009, 08:40:57 PM »

Quote from: lightningninja on August 24, 2009, 08:06:50 PM

Hm... I don't see how this is broken in type I. I mean... that's ONE ls... there's still so many more to rescue. It's NOT broken. Is this where I get to use my national champion prestige to try and persuade everyone? No? Darn....

One lost soul per Rescue.

lightningninja · « **Reply #32 on:** August 24, 2009, 09:59:42 PM »

Wah...?

Professoralstad · « **Reply #33 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:28:30 AM »

So here's what would theoretically happen: I place 1 (or 2) LS's in Hormah. I have PO out. You attack me, and I discard a Philistine from my deck, to put him in play (using outpost). I just discarded an EC, so I get to put one (or two) LS's on the bottom of my deck. My next turn I put a LS in Hormah. Then it's your turn, you attack me. I discard a Philistine from my deck, put him in play, and another LS goes to the bottom. Then this happens over and over again.

So I get to put Lost Souls under my deck for virtually no cost. All I have to do is have a few generic Philistines (or just the one that can get any Philistine out of the deck/discard). Obviously it won't last forever, but it certainly could last for quite awhile.

I love Philistines, and I love Philistine Outpost. But I don't think we should let it be so powerful that everyone uses it.

DaClock · « **Reply #34 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:40:25 AM »

How are you getting Hormah back each turn?

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #35 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:45:08 AM »

Outpost protects them from being placed beneath.

DaClock · « **Reply #36 on:** August 25, 2009, 12:45:58 AM »

Quote from: Red Dragon Thorn on August 25, 2009, 12:45:08 AM

Outpost protects them from being placed beneath.

*facepalm*

The Guardian · « **Reply #37 on:** August 25, 2009, 01:42:22 AM »

It's bad enough when 2-3 Lost Souls are in the last few cards of someone's deck just from a random shuffle, I don't think we need to allow combos this easy to do that.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #38 on:** August 25, 2009, 08:12:30 AM »

Looking at Hormah alone, why would anyone place Hormah beneath deck anyway? It's needed an eratta for a while, but no one has noticed.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #39 on:** August 25, 2009, 09:24:17 AM »

Quote from: BubbleBoy on August 25, 2009, 08:12:30 AM

Looking at Hormah alone, why would anyone place Hormah beneath deck anyway? It's needed an eratta for a while, but no one has noticed.

Agreed. It should say like...

If your human Evil Character is discarded, you may place this Site under the deck to place all cards on this site under the deck.

Something where MAY doesnt make both parts optional. I see this card as a cost and effect. you put it under, and everything follows.

STAMP · « **Reply #40 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:03:00 AM »

Well, if Hormah gets an errata to play as intended, then PLEASE, by all means, give Split Altar errata to play as intended.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #41 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:03:54 AM »

Quote from: STAMP on August 25, 2009, 10:03:00 AM

Well, if Hormah gets an errata to play as intended, then PLEASE, by all means, give Split Altar errata to play as intended.

I second this.

TimMierz · « **Reply #42 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:06:08 AM »

Cards don't get errata to become MORE powerful, they get it to become LESS powerful (or do something that makes legal sense).

crustpope · « **Reply #43 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:06:32 AM »

Split altar isnt nearly as broken (and would be more broken if played as intended) than the hormah/PO combo. If this combo is left alone, Every type 2 player will be playing Philitine outpost decks and the only counters would be either to negate PO's SA, play with the Thorns LS, or keep attacking with Soldier of God.

well that or play Anoobedoobedoo x5

TechnoEthicist · « **Reply #44 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:13:10 AM »

And we can't have that, for we all know that Black is supposed to be weak and played by crazy type 2 people

STAMP · « **Reply #45 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:26:40 AM »

Quote from: crustpope on August 25, 2009, 10:06:32 AM

well that or play Anoobedoobedoo x5

And therein lies the reason I do not want anything done with this issue. No errata. No rule change. No pork barrel spending!

But seriously, folks, it's not even as powerful as TGT! So please leave it alone. Just because most people do not currently use any of the numerous counters to this combo doesn't mean it's broken. We haven't even had a tournament yet where it's been used! Don't make a decision until at least some districts have been played.

crustpope · « **Reply #46 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:38:01 AM »

High places and set Fire/Spreading mildew/Image of jealousy/Destructive Sin(?) would make short work of PO. Joshua and T-blast. The Thorns LS, Hidden Treasures and Annoobedoobedoo x5. Rescuing with Faithful Servant (not soldier of God but the OTHER guy, sorry about that) or Paladin the Fighter. Nuke all their generic Phillies out of the d/c Pile (there are only 4 or 5 so one or two Wonders Forgotten/Forgotten History should do it.

Im sure there are other counters to this card but it does mean that strategies will have to change a lot.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #47 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:39:59 AM »

Who's "Annoobedoobedoo"?

The Schaef · « **Reply #48 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:45:48 AM »

I think he's the guy that discards Ishabibbanibbaboo

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #49 on:** August 25, 2009, 10:48:50 AM »

A noo beedoobeedoo.
noo = new

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Author Topic: Philistine Hormah (Read 11110 times)

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