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Side battles
« on: March 04, 2014, 09:17:56 PM »
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1. If a side battle starts  , are the cards that were in the original battle go to the set aside and are considered out of play until the side battle finishes? or still in the field of battle and in play but not battling?

 
« Last Edit: March 04, 2014, 09:20:41 PM by redemption collector 777 »

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Re: Side battles
« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 09:26:59 PM »
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The default state for the cards in the original battle (unless the side-battle card says otherwise) is for them to be "in the field of battle" (not the same as "in battle" which refers to the current battle by default), which is also in play.  If a card targets the "field of battle" or cards in play, it can affect those cards in the original battle.

Should an effect in a side battle cause a removal condition that would normally allow for Special Initiative in the main battle, the characters in the main battle cannot play anything at that time; the side battle must conclude first.  After the side battle, if SI were caused, the side being removed may play as if the card causing the side battle were the source of the removal.  And that is just tough..

Negating a side battle cascade-negates everything that happened in the side battle.

...side battles are confusing...
« Last Edit: March 05, 2014, 05:26:54 PM by Redoubter »

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Re: Side battles
« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 10:52:56 PM »
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Maybe we should restrict side battle cards to another gameplay type: 2P, MP, and SB...
Just one more thing...

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Re: Side battles
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2014, 12:16:30 PM »
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Should an effect in a side battle cause a removal condition that would normally allow for Special Initiative in the main battle, the characters in the main battle cannot play anything at that time; the side battle must conclude first.  After the side battle, if SI were caused, the side being removed may play as if the card causing the side battle were the source of the removal.

This is inconsistent with the Elders' ruling from last May.  See Gabe's summary below:

The elders have finally reached a consensus on this topic. The following clarification is being added to the REG update that's coming later this week.

-If a card with a side battle ability is negated, then all interruptable effects that resulted from cards played during the side battle are likewise negated.

-If a character in the suspended battle is defeated by a special ability played in a side battle, it does not have a chance to interrupt the defeating special ability as it would if the special ability were played in the same battle as the character. This is because by the time the side battle resolves, the only abilities that can be targeted for interrupt are abilities in the main battle, which are not directly causing the removal of the defeated character.
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Re: Side battles
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2014, 05:17:30 PM »
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Thank you for posting that.  I'm just going to say again:

...side battles are confusing...

Okay, it used to be the ruling that you could negate the side battle card when it returned to the main battle.  Editing my original post to correct this part, forgot about the "Elder Consensus" on this (which has also made it into the new REG, by the way).

Go with that instead of what I said on that one part :)

 


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