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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Prof Underwood on October 03, 2008, 02:02:52 AM
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Here's what I could find so far:
...the consensus was while Saul always converts to multi-color Paul, evil Paul does not re-convert to a multi-color Paul.
I think that default conversion rules would indicate that it is converted to a single color, it loses previous colors, and it stays the new color even after battle.
These seem to indicate that Paul (multi-brigade) could be converted by and EC discarding Gold Shield to become a single brigade GC.
Therefore, you can interrupt the battle to interrupt Gold Shield, provided you have a card in the appropriate brigade to do so.
This seems to indicate that after Paul is converted with Gold Shield, that he could only play an interrupt in the specific brigade that he was converted to.
Am I understanding this correctly?
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Hey,
Am I understanding this correctly?
Yes.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly, WildCard Secretary of Defense
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+1 with Tim.
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Nice, I finally know how to stop hero-light
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Nice, I finally know how to stop hero-light
Cept built on the rock protects against conversion.
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Sorry about not finishing our gamelast night prof. My internet went out :(
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Nice, I finally know how to stop hero-light
Cept built on the rock protects against conversion.
:doh:
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Sorry about not finishing our gamelast night prof. My internet went out :(
I understand. Based on my PM about the game do you agree that your offense was gone and that I would have eventually won?
Most of all, I'll remember that game for a while for being an awesome back-and-forth game in 3 distinct phases. Really a fascinating game with 2 very different offenses and defenses in a knock-down, drag-out, slug fest. Even without finishing, it was a great game :)
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Accually i still had aoc promo + reach and AOTL + one more convert of holy grail and a healing of naaman as well as zeal for the lord so it could have gone either way. Saul/Paul wasn't my only offense ;)
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What did you convert Saul/Paul with then?
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After further discussion, it looks like the game was still up in the air. I guess we'll just have to wait for the rematch :)
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What did you convert Saul/Paul with then?
one of his hg uses. Chris' herolite is very mean.
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This seems to indicate that after Paul is converted with Gold Shield, that he could only play an interrupt in the specific brigade that he was converted to.
It now also occurs to me that since Gold Shield is discarded, that not only would a character converted by it only be able to interrupt using their new brigade, but it would also have to be a "negate last" enhancement in order to work.
Am I understanding that correctly?
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Something that negates last, yes (meaning: also itb). But that seems to be the result of this entire discussion.
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Something that negates last, yes (meaning: also itb). But that seems to be the result of this entire discussion.
This brings up other questions.
If EC discards Gold Shield to convert GC from white to blue.
GC plays "interrupt the battle and play next" (blue GE)
At this point does the GC have to play blue GEs, white GEs, or can pick either one?
And if they play a GE to discard the EC, then does the Gold Shield no longer work because there is no EC for it to activate on?
Or does it still work, because it has already activated, and discarded itself, and therefore doesn't need and EC anymore anyway?
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At this point does the GC have to play blue GEs, white GEs, or can pick either one?
I would think only white, but that's just a gut response.
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I can't think of a blue interrupt draw three play next.
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I can't think of a blue interrupt draw three play next.
Yeah, I must have been thinking about the Gen one from the next starter deck.
P.S. That was a joke, not a spoiler, as I know nothing about the next starter deck :)
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If EC discards Gold Shield to convert GC from white to blue.
GC plays "interrupt the battle and play next" (blue GE)
At this point does the GC have to play blue GEs, white GEs, or can pick either one?
I thought "interrupt the battle" meant "interrupt the special abilities on the cards in battle." And thus, Gold Shield would not be interrupted, because it was previously discarded, and the hero would have to use blue enhancements.
And if they play a GE to discard the EC, then does the Gold Shield no longer work because there is no EC for it to activate on?
Or does it still work, because it has already activated, and discarded itself, and therefore doesn't need and EC anymore anyway?
I think it would still work; the hero would stay a blue hero after battle.
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At this point does the GC have to play blue GEs, white GEs, or can pick either one?
I would think only white, but that's just a gut response.
I agree with Justin's gut. (Does that mean I'm edible?)
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I agree with Justin's gut, and Bryon that only white GEs could be played while the battle was interrupted.
Now what about that second question? Does everyone agree with Bubble?
And if they play a GE to discard the EC, then does the Gold Shield no longer work because there is no EC for it to activate on?
Or does it still work, because it has already activated, and discarded itself, and therefore doesn't need and EC anymore anyway?
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I think it would still work; the hero would stay a blue hero after battle.