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When a card or special ability references a character by name, it can be applied to any version of the named character.
Just checking, "protect flood survivors in territory" won't let them still be protected if they're later banded into battle, right?
I'm not saying this is an official ruling, but the point Polarius brought up in regards to "Noah's Sons" vs "Noah's sons" makes sense to me in that Noah is only referring to the card "Noah's Sons" not the characters Noah's Sons, Shem, Ham and Japheth.While capitalization in older sets has been somewhat arbitrary, this might be one instance where we can say the ability is pointing to a specific card.Again, not official...just my
The fact that other cards exist that happen to be male children of Noah is irrelevant, the card game doesn't know that nor does it care. For this even to be debatable there would need to be a REG entry called "Noah's Sons" and it would have to define what cards fit into that category.
When a card or special ability references a character by name, it can be applied to any version of the named character.These are unique characters with different card titles:...Noah’s Sons (Pa) or Shem (CW)/Ham (CW)/Japheth (CW)...
QuoteThe fact that other cards exist that happen to be male children of Noah is irrelevant, the card game doesn't know that nor does it care. For this even to be debatable there would need to be a REG entry called "Noah's Sons" and it would have to define what cards fit into that category.It can be argued that that's covered under the "Duplicate Cards" entry in the REG Glossary.QuoteWhen a card or special ability references a character by name, it can be applied to any version of the named character.These are unique characters with different card titles:...Noah’s Sons (Pa) or Shem (CW)/Ham (CW)/Japheth (CW)...
Quote from: RedemptionAggie on June 23, 2017, 08:28:47 PMQuoteThe fact that other cards exist that happen to be male children of Noah is irrelevant, the card game doesn't know that nor does it care. For this even to be debatable there would need to be a REG entry called "Noah's Sons" and it would have to define what cards fit into that category.It can be argued that that's covered under the "Duplicate Cards" entry in the REG Glossary.QuoteWhen a card or special ability references a character by name, it can be applied to any version of the named character.These are unique characters with different card titles:...Noah’s Sons (Pa) or Shem (CW)/Ham (CW)/Japheth (CW)...You are definitely right, I control+f'd "Noah's Sons" and didn't find that for some reason. Since the REG clearly does in fact define Shem, Ham, and Japheth as being targetable under the name "Noah's Sons", Noah can definitely target them with his ability. From the wording of Noah it seems to me like he would only be able to copy one of them at a time.
A simple solution to this problem is to never play Patriarchs Noah or old Noah's Sons in combination with the Cloud versions of these characters.