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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: disciple_drew on February 13, 2011, 11:29:23 AM
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Passover & Unleavened Bread
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Set aside all of your human heros for one turn. for the next one of those heroes that enters battle, return an evil character in play to the bottom of it's owner's draw pile.
Ok, I have a question concerning this. When this is played and the player sets aside all of his heroes and they come back, is it only one of those heros that gets to return only one evil character on the bottom of the owner's deck or is it for each of those heroes that were set aside.
I believe it's each because the text says "for the next one of those heroes" rather than just one the heroes. I've had some players agree and disagree and I just want to get this ruling down before a tournament shows up again.
It wouldn't make sense if it was only one evil character because then why wouldn't it just say set aside only that one hero to do so. Jephthah is an uncommon and he discards 2 cards for the price of 1 card from a deck while passover & unleaven bread (which is a rare) has to set aside all of your heroes just to return an evil character to the bottom of a deck? That just doesn't add up if it was that way but I want to make sure
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Only the next hero who enters battle can put an EC under your opponent's deck. Their is only one next, therefore only one hero gets to use the ability. If I take 20 people and put them in a room and then say the next person to walk out of that room gets a piece of candy, then how many people are going to receive a piece of candy?
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Adotson is correct, there is only one "next Hero."
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Then the card should say the next hero not for the next one of those heroes. That is causing some confusion.
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There is literally no cost for this card as is and you want it to work multiple times with one turn of set aside?
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The wording to be better.
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There is literally no cost for this card as is and you want it to work multiple times with one turn of set aside?
It leaves your entire defense open to a DD, which I hear is prevalent in Drew's group.
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There is literally no cost for this card as is and you want it to work multiple times with one turn of set aside?
It leaves your entire defense open to a DD, which I hear is prevalent in Drew's group.
That isn't a cost. Besides, DD sees little play in type 1. I understand the confusion on the wording though, but it would be too powerful considering the boost it would give to TGT if it was played the other way.
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If it said "next hero" instead of "next one of those heroes" the ability would function differently. I don't see a problem with the wording.
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I don't think it would be too powerful. Look at Jephthah, he gets to discard 2 cards for the price of the top card of your deck? Come on, not to mention he's an uncommon compared to the passover which is a "rare".
If it just stated next hero it would still function the same. Set aside all the heros, then the next one that enters battle shuffles a dude away. Rather than for the next one of those heroes (plural when it should of been singular). That's what's caused the confusion on my part.
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Then the card should say the next hero not for the next one of those heroes. That is causing some confusion.
That would indeed function differently, as it would apply to heroes that weren't set aside. Changing to one changes it back, as "one" refers to the heroes set aside whereas "next hero" refers to any hero.
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Then the card should say the next hero not for the next one of those heroes. That is causing some confusion.
That would indeed function differently, as it would apply to heroes that weren't set aside.
Ok, I see what you're saying now.