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1. Does Hidden Treasures activate before or after the Special Ability of the rescuing hero?

2. Can you deactivate artifacts in your Discard phase?

3. Opponent RA's and I block with Gomer and band with opponent's Magician holding charms. Can I discard Magic Charms to capture two heroes?


Hidden Treasures (FF)

Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Once per turn, if your lone green brigade prophet begins a battle, you may play an Enhancement or discard an evil Enhancement in an opponent's deck. • Play As: Once per turn, if your lone green brigade prophet begins a battle, you may play an Enhancement or search opponent's deck for an evil enhancement and discard it. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Obadiah 1:6 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers booster packs (None)


Gomer (TP)

Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 3 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: May band to a male Evil Character. Cannot be negated unless Hosea is in play. • Identifiers: OT Female Human • Verse: Hosea 2:8 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()


Magic Charms (TP)

Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect your Magicians from capture and conversion. You may discard this card from your Magician during battle to capture up to two human Heroes. • Play As: Protect your Magicians from capture and convert abilities. You may discard this card from your Magician during battle to capture up to two human Heroes. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Ezekiel 13:20 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

1. Afterwards.
2. No.
3. No, because it's not "your" magician.

For the third question, it doesn't matter that it isn't "your" magician anyway. You control the character, but not the artifact placed on it.

I don't think that's true. By that logic, I couldn't use my opponent's 2KH if I banded his ASA with it into battle via Archer.

Sauce is right. Since Magic Charms is not a weapon, it doesn't follow the same rules as a weapon. It follows the rules of an Artifact, which remain under the control of their owner, even if a card that's holding them ends up under another players control.

It might make more sense if you think of it in terms of placed cards, like Destructive Sin. If I place DS on your Hero, I still control it.  In a MP game, if a 3rd player bands to your Hero, they don't control DS, I still do.

Magic Charms is not a place ability but it functions in a similar way for this example.