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If HA2 said "instead," it'd be a different story. Everyone is treating the card like it has an "instead" ability, but it doesn't. It has a Capture ability that Cannot be Negated.

My understanding of the rules of the last chance interrupt/negate is that the hero gets to play it BEFORE being removed, so in the case of the withdraw the hero would be able to negate it when the hero is still in battle and therefore has not withdrawn yet and doesn't get captured

Hey,

So the interrupt is played after the withdraw card (Herod's Treachery) is used, but before the actual withdraw happens.

Don't see how that's possible considering...

Instant abilities complete before another ability can be inserted, including dominants.

if herod's treachery is played on herod agrippa II, does it make the withdraw effect of herod's treachery un-interruptable essentially?

Essentially, yes.  Given the above REG quote I don't see how we can rule any other way.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Hey,

Quote from: Professoralstad on August 31, 2009, 04:49:08 PM

So the interrupt is played after the withdraw card (Herod's Treachery) is used, but before the actual withdraw happens.

Don't see how that's possible considering...

Instant abilities complete before another ability can be inserted, including dominants.

I guess I thought removal from battle abilities were the exception to the rule. So you would agree then that it is necessary for a Hero to be allowed to play an evil interrupt, since convert abilities must complete before any other ability occurs?

by game rule you are allowed to interrupt a removal card. but the withdraw ability does technically complete, and before the opponent can play an interrupt, agrippa2's ability is already there to trigger. once that happens, it becomes cbn.

I guess that may be the way it is, but I've always seen it differently. If the withdraw does complete, then I would agree that the capture happens and interrupting wouldn't work, since interrupting the withdrawal would be indirectly interrupting the capture which can't happen.

So who knows, maybe Outburst of Anger will actually be used in the future. That would be great, because then I might have someone to trade my umpteen copies to.

I don't think making a withdraw ability CBI is that powerful anyway, especially seeing as there would only be two commonly used ones.

I said would be, and both have been mentioned: Herod's Treachery and Outburst of Anger.

EDIT: I meant Temptation, not Outburst of Anger. I got confused because Prof A mentioned the other one.