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Bad idea- Asking a question without posting the abilities of the cards in question.
Worse idea- Asking a question and using an acronym for a relatively obscure card.

At any rate, I would argue that the decrease would not stick. Because Gates of Samaria is not CBN, that means that it should be able to be indirectly negated. In this case, when Shimei's Malicious Curse gets played, it resets Omri, so it's like the Samaria was never put in play to begin with. That said, I'm probably wrong.

Shimei's Malicious Curse (Ki)

Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 0 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities on characters and enhancements except this one are negated. Battle is determined by the numbers. • Identifiers: OT, Depicts a Weapon • Verse: I Kings 2:8 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Common)

King Omri (Ki)

Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Brown • Ability: 6 / 7 • Class: None • Special Ability: Search your draw pile for one Samaria Site and put in play. Land Purchase cannot be negated. • Play As: Search your deck for one Samaria Site and place in play. Land Purchase cannot be negated. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, King (Israel), Royalty, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Kings 16:23 • Availability: Kings booster packs (Uncommon)

Gates of Samaria (RA2)

Type: Fortress • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect evil Kings of Israel in your territory from opponents. When you play a Samaria Site, increase your evil King of Israel 6/6 to decrease a character 6/6. • Identifiers: None • Verse: II Kings 7:1 • Availability: Rock of Ages Extended booster packs (None)

Gates is a triggered ability and to my knowledge they cannot go in reverse. Therefore I would say the site goes back to deck and the decrease is sticks. Honestly I am not 100% either the part that is tripping me up is that Gates is never really being negated explicitly.

except thats opposite to the herods dungeon ruling and im never stopping gates it functions does its thing then im resetting the search but i just want confirmation based on ruling that was made on other thread

How is the opposite of the ruling to Herod's Dungeon?

That was never the ruling for Herod's Dungeon. The ruling was that because FaaMS only targets occupied sites, it couldn't target a Dungeon trying to capture a hero, unless another hero who could play it was in battle.

there is no tns just my omri there hero and my smc trying to recycle my site for multi use

The ruling that you couldn't negate Gates of Samaria by negating Omri is a question of initiative, if you are losing by removal you have to interrupt the card causing you to lose by removal, in the case of Shimei's Malicious Curse you aren't losing by removal (and if you are it has nothing to do with Gates of Samaria) so it will negate Omri's ability putting Samaria back and undoing the decrease.