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Offline Drrek

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Re: Omri and Gates
« Reply #25 on: April 11, 2012, 02:20:57 PM »
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Ahem  ;)

...Back to my original question for just a minute... would the Crown of Thorns being MINE affect my ability to play Lying unto God on my from-hand-EC under special initiate? (Example, player B cannot play "Escape" to retreat his EC after playing "Deceit of Sapphira" since Player B caused the removal...) Does this precedent carry over to cards outside of battle?

I would think that you could play lying unto God to negate it, because it is interrupt the battle that has the stipulation that it only interrupts opponent's abilities that are removing you from battle.  I don't believe regular negates/interrupts have that rule (at least not what I can tell from the REG), so I would think that Lying unto God as a regular negate would work.
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Re: Omri and Gates
« Reply #26 on: April 11, 2012, 02:27:05 PM »
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Ahem  ;)

...Back to my original question for just a minute... would the Crown of Thorns being MINE affect my ability to play Lying unto God on my from-hand-EC under special initiate? (Example, player B cannot play "Escape" to retreat his EC after playing "Deceit of Sapphira" since Player B caused the removal...) Does this precedent carry over to cards outside of battle?

You can discard your own CoT.

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Re: Omri and Gates
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2012, 04:06:35 PM »
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I have always thought it was that you do not achieve special initiative when being removed by your own card.
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Re: Omri and Gates
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2012, 04:12:28 PM »
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I know you can't negate killing yourself when it is your on character or enhancement doing the killing (king zimri and samsons sacrifice for example) but Idk about an artifact that is killing yourself, I assume if would follow the same rules and you can't negate it

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Re: Omri and Gates
« Reply #29 on: April 11, 2012, 04:19:44 PM »
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I have always thought it was that you do not achieve special initiative when being removed by your own card.

I was under the impression that that only counted when you were being removed by your own card of your own alignment, or otherwise if it was your own card that was in battle. Simply saying "your own card" would be easier however, and at any rate, I may be wrong, that's just what I thought.

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Re: Omri and Gates
« Reply #30 on: April 11, 2012, 04:52:55 PM »
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I'd love the loophole of being able to negate your own artifact, but it would probably be easiest to clarify in the new rule book that special initiative can only be gained when an opponent's card is removing your from battle. Does this affect any other plays (outside of Crown of Thorns) you all can think of?

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