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Official Errata list updated
« on: July 06, 2017, 12:59:00 AM »
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The official errata list has been updated. You can find it here: Errata list

Please let us know if you believe anything is missing. We are also working on a project that will be a comprehensive list of all card erratas and cards with play-as that will be posted online for hosts to download. Our goal is to release a beta version in the coming weeks or debut at Nationals.

Once that document is published, we will use that as the official errata list and the list posted here on the forum will be taken down.
« Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 06:57:50 PM by The Guardian »
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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2017, 01:13:10 AM »
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Yay, updated errata list!

I'm not sure if the elders want this here or a new thread, so feel free to separate it if needed.

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Holy of Holies (D) - Prevent all interrupt, prevent and negate abilities on characters. Cannot be negated.
Should HoH (Priests) - currently only CBN during the battle phase - have the same errata to avoid questions on CoW Moses negating TC cards that negate HoH outside of battle?

Casting Lots (Di) - Negate Artifacts.  Each opponent with less than 6 cards in hand may draw until he has 6. Discard a face-down Artifact or a random card from a hand.
Worldly Wisdom - Negate a Site or Artifact. If used by a character with scholar or philosopher in the title, search your deck for an evil or neutral card.

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***ALL 1ST PRINT CARD WILL BE ERRATA'D TO MATCH THEIR SECOND PRINT COUNTERPARTS.***
What does this mean for Moses' Parents and Faith of Moses' Parents and the name change in the alternate border cards?  Are all copies treated as (Faith of) Amram and Jochebed?

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Sound the Trumpet (Kings)
Card - Discard one single color Lost Soul Site or one Kingdoms of this World Fortress. Lost Soul(s) or Evil Character(s) remain in play.
Errata - Discard a single-brigade Site or a Kingdoms of the World Fortress. If any Evil Characters are discarded by this ability, release them instead.

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Plague of Blood (Patriarchs)
Card - Discard all Kingdoms of this World (KotW) sites in play. All Evil Characters from all KotW sites are returned to their owner's territory.
Errata - Discard all Kingdoms of the World Fortresses. If any Evil Characters are discarded by this ability, return them to owners' territories instead.
These stood out as cards with different errata but similar abilities, but the differences exist on the original cards.  It should probably be "release" instead of "return" on Plague of Blood, though.

Missing Cards:
The Testimony (Kings) - should be the same as Answered Prayer - and both probably need to say "Hero's abilities (*/*)", since abilities is missing on Answered Prayer
Silly Women (Women) - similar to Angel with the Secret Name
King Jehu (Kings) - similar to Weapon of Light, but has an SA
Unsuccessful (Priests) - similar to Covenant of Noah, if it gets one
« Last Edit: July 06, 2017, 01:23:34 AM by RedemptionAggie »

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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 01:36:59 AM »
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We decided that HoH does not need the CBN errata because if Moses is prevented, but then starts working because HoH is negated, only the prevent ability would "turn on" thus the cards that negated HoH would not be negated.

No--alternate border cards are not considered a "second print."

Good catch on Plague of Blood.

The Testimony is on the list...

Silly Women and King Jehu will be included with the Play-As/Errata document. Since those are technically play-as we didn't add them. (Angel with the Secret Name is the same way, but it was already on the list so we left it.)

Thanks for the reminder on Unsuccessful--that was one we planned to do but forgot.
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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #3 on: July 06, 2017, 02:11:13 AM »
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That's what I figured on Moses/HoH, it's just the odd card out since the other negate character arts are always CBN.

I just missed The Testimony - too much scrolling back and forth.  But both it and Answered Prayer are missing the word "abilities", like Angel with the Secret Name.  "Hero's (*/*)" doesn't make much sense.

Why does Counsel of Abigail (Wo) have an errata, but Treachery of Jezebel (Wo) doesn't?  They have the same wording, except for the Hero/EC part which is unnecessary.  That might be more Play-As than Errata, though.

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Angry Mob (Apostles) - Select a player at random. Discard a random Hero in that player's territory or set aside area.
Is there a definition for selecting a random player?  Or just dice roll/coin flip?

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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #4 on: July 06, 2017, 03:20:01 AM »
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Why does Counsel of Abigail (Wo) have an errata, but Treachery of Jezebel (Wo) doesn't?  They have the same wording, except for the Hero/EC part which is unnecessary.  That might be more Play-As than Errata, though.

Actually, we realized they don't. Counsel says "prevent and redirect" which doesn't make sense. Treachery says "prevent or redirect," which is what Counsel should have said.

A player can use any method as long as it is random (die roll, coin flip, RNG on his phone, spinning a card...)  8)
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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #5 on: July 06, 2017, 05:13:32 AM »
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A player can use any method as long as it is random (die roll, coin flip, RNG on his phone, spinning a card...)  8)

I was initially going to suggest some of the most ridiculous methods to generate random numbers (like Radioactive decay or cosmic microwave background radiation) but then I realized that the Tournament guide has time limits for card abilities and I don't think any of those methods could be done in what? 30 seconds?
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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #6 on: July 06, 2017, 06:25:42 AM »
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A player can use any method as long as it is random (die roll, coin flip, RNG on his phone, spinning a card...)  8)

I was initially going to suggest some of the most ridiculous methods to generate random numbers (like Radioactive decay or cosmic microwave background radiation) but then I realized that the Tournament guide has time limits for card abilities and I don't think any of those methods could be done in what? 30 seconds?

What your phone doesn't have that app? Because mine does. =P
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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #7 on: July 06, 2017, 07:40:25 AM »
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Thanks for your thoughtful feedback, Mr. Aggie!

Unsuccessful has been added to the errata list.
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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #8 on: July 06, 2017, 04:36:15 PM »
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Guardian's first post links to the 3rd post in the Errata thread, not the first.  That's not a problem, it just seems like a weird place to link.

Prince of the Air (Priests) - Return an angel in battle (except warrior class) to owner’s territory. If block is successful, place one Chamber of Angels and its contents beneath owner’s draw pile. Cannot be negated.
Chamber of Angels - Plays to set-aside
Spiritual Realm (Angel Wars) - Holder’s demons are protected from capture unless the capturing player has Tartaros in play. While holder’s demon is in battle, weapon-class enhancements on human heroes are worth 0/0.
Tartaros (Apostles) - In play
Tartaros (Persecuted Church) - Plays to set-aside

I believe there's a rule that you can target a named card in it's default location without having to specify that it's out of play, but I can't find that documented in the REG or rulebook (or I'm looking for the wrong thing).  So Prince of the Air should work, but how does Spiritual Realm interact with PC Tartaros since Realm specifies in play and PC Tartaros is set-aside?

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Re: Official Errata list updated
« Reply #9 on: July 06, 2017, 06:55:26 PM »
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Fixed the link, thanks for pointing that out.  8)

Spiritual Realm's condition would not be fulfilled if the opponent was using PC Tartaros. We decided those were unnecessary erratas and that the cards functioned just fine without them.

We were under the same impression with the targeting of a named card in its default location, but please let us know if you cannot find that entry (because it's supposed to be in the REG).
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