Author Topic: New Jerusalem poll (Read 16816 times)

wk4c · « **Reply #75 on:** December 17, 2008, 03:38:49 PM »

Quote from: Prof Underwood on December 17, 2008, 02:14:11 PM

Quote from: wk4c on December 17, 2008, 12:57:27 PM
There's a combo of 5 cards that automatically wins the game for you.

Confusion + an EC + Burial + SoG + NJ = You CANNOT lose.

Impossible to lose if you pull that off. I actually have a deck based around that(I also have HPP)...alot of fun.
This clearly doesn't account for many other factors.
1- your opponent gets and plays SoG/NJ before you can confusion it
2- your opponent never gives you initiative to play confusion
3- your opponent plays FBN so that confusion never works
4- your opponent creates their own lost souls with:
   The Amelikite Slave
   Hopper LS
   Malchus
   Potifer's wife
   Recruiting Officer
   War Officer
   several other characters who send people to opponent's LOB

Many of these are commonly found in decks, making this combo only a possible win, not a definite one.

I said if you pull it off... Obviously if those things happen, I did not "pull it off". However, if those things don't happen, it is an instant win.

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #76 on:** December 17, 2008, 06:33:39 PM »

That 1/1 king with confusion and then DoU is an amazing combo.

Tsavong Lah · « **Reply #77 on:** January 13, 2009, 08:32:56 PM »

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I said if you pull it off... Obviously if those things happen, I did not "pull it off". However, if those things don't happen, it is an instant win.

And how often do you pull that off? Never. Someone always has a way to give you a Lost Soul, in my experience playing PG Assyrians with Confusion.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #78 on:** January 13, 2009, 08:53:31 PM »

Not to mention it doesn't actually let you win, it just stops your opponent from winning. You still have to get past his defense.

Vasbear · « **Reply #79 on:** January 22, 2009, 10:56:35 PM »

Heres my two cents......

T1:
Play to 8
Deck limit of 63 cards

This fixs confusion
and kills sped for all of us that want freash games.

JSB23 · « **Reply #80 on:** January 23, 2009, 12:34:08 AM »

Quote from: Vasbear on January 22, 2009, 10:56:35 PM

T1:
Play to 8
Deck limit of 63 cards

This fixs confusion
and kills sped for all of us that want freash games.

No, just no

777Godspeed · « **Reply #81 on:** January 23, 2009, 09:32:56 AM »

Quote from: Vasbear on January 22, 2009, 10:56:35 PM

Heres my two cents......

T1:
Play to 8
Deck limit of 63 cards

This fixs confusion
and kills sped for all of us that want freash games.

Type NW is what you are looking for. Come on and join us.

Godspeed,
Mike

Vasbear · « **Reply #82 on:** January 24, 2009, 04:33:43 PM »

sounds fun....

posted with more of my info.

michael/michaelssword · « **Reply #83 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:15:53 PM »

HA we speed will just add more speed!
cards I don't have in my speed deck that would go in my 63 speed deck:
pentecost
book of hozai
provisions

many more I can't think of....

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #84 on:** January 25, 2009, 06:41:30 PM »

It's not your speed deck though. It's everyone's speed deck. Yay for fitting in! (or not)

Yankee1 · « **Reply #85 on:** February 02, 2009, 10:20:17 PM »

I think the rule is the rule...Thats the way they designed it!!...There are cards out there that let you search a deck and get rid of a NJ or SOG etc...You could build a DISCARD deck...There are lots of ways around it...

TheKarazyvicePresidentRR · « **Reply #86 on:** February 02, 2009, 10:56:42 PM »

Quote from: wk4c on December 17, 2008, 12:57:27 PM

There's a combo of 5 cards that automatically wins the game for you.

Confusion + an EC + Burial + SoG + NJ = You CANNOT lose.

Impossible to lose if you pull that off. I actually have a deck based around that(I also have HPP)...alot of fun.

You've never played me with my angely deck (angel at tomb is in there

)

Kyp Henderson · « **Reply #87 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:06:24 PM »

I believe we should make NJ only Type 2. It isn't fair in a game if you draw 3 souls and no def and then they pull out son of God and nJ.

robm · « **Reply #88 on:** July 05, 2009, 06:32:49 PM »

Type 3- All Lost Souls are put in play at the beginning of the game. Choose the Lost Soul that you want to go after.
Could be interesting?

sepjazzwarrior · « **Reply #89 on:** July 05, 2009, 08:23:12 PM »

i dont believe in banning any cards. when we ban one then it becomes ok to ban others and then we end up with lots of good cards that people spend a lot of time and money getting that they cant use anymore. yes it would only be from type 1 but you have to draw the line somewhere

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #90 on:** July 05, 2009, 08:38:32 PM »

my idea is to announce that evil characters can now attack the land of redemption to fall away lost souls.
ban goys instead

BubbleBoy · « **Reply #91 on:** July 05, 2009, 10:37:14 PM »

Quote from: RTSmaniac on July 05, 2009, 08:38:32 PM

my idea is to announce that evil characters can now attack the land of redemption to fall away lost souls.

You know, that's a really cool idea. ...

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #92 on:** July 05, 2009, 11:28:15 PM »

yea it got shot down because of time constraints. Too many timed games. But i likey:)

NWJosh · « **Reply #93 on:** July 06, 2009, 03:04:46 PM »

My thought is really to add 2 categories. The first would be a Type 3 which would be like Type NW. The other category would be teams. At nats you would have 1 day with 2 events and the other 2 days would have 3 events. Regional and state tourney hosts would be required to do the basic 6 we have now and could choose to add in the extra ones. District and local touneys hosts can choose any of the categories they want. This way we get teams added in, we get a category that is deck building but without the effectiveness of dominants.

I think T1 should remain as it is because that is how most people have learned how to play and is what is in the rules for new people learning ot play. I love booster draft at tourneys and I play T2 ALL the time. The only event I'm not sold on is Closed deck. So if we added two events or had one replace closed deck I'd be ok.

Alex_Olijar · « **Reply #94 on:** July 06, 2009, 04:38:36 PM »

Closed deck is necessary to help new players learn the ropes and feel like they have a chance in tournaments because everyone is on a similar deck level.

TheHobbit13 · « **Reply #95 on:** July 06, 2009, 05:09:12 PM »

Banning cards from the beggining of a CCG is the solution, going back and banning cards throughout the ages is counter productive. I understand what MK chief is saying though and I cant say I totally disagree.

If the lost souls rescued was increased to six for type one, the lost soul per deck ratio would also need to be increased.

The Guardian · « **Reply #96 on:** July 06, 2009, 05:38:34 PM »

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If the lost souls rescued was increased to six for type one, the lost soul per deck ratio would also need to be increased.

And games would take longer as well... $:-\$

everytribe · « **Reply #97 on:** July 06, 2009, 06:47:23 PM »

We could limit the number of dominants per deck to say 8.

D-man · « **Reply #98 on:** July 06, 2009, 10:39:03 PM »

Hmm...people would still use NJ.

In my playgroup, we have banned NJ for years. I'm not sure that banning it completely from T1 is a good solution, though. If we can avoid banning anything, that's better. The best solution is to never have printed the card in the first place.

TimMierz · « **Reply #99 on:** July 06, 2009, 11:01:34 PM »

Quote from: D-man on July 06, 2009, 10:39:03 PM

Hmm...people would still use NJ.

In my playgroup, we have banned NJ for years. I'm not sure that banning it completely from T1 is a good solution, though. If we can avoid banning anything, that's better. The best solution is to never have printed the card in the first place.

Is our best use of time travel really to potentially improve a card game?

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Author Topic: New Jerusalem poll (Read 16816 times)

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