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New battle
« on: July 30, 2019, 08:51:28 AM »
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If I use Worshipping Demons to protect Lost souls from rescue and also end the battle, and my opponent banishes uses his YWR to begin a new battle, is it a completely new battle phase or just a new battle during the same battle phase? In other words, when YWR begins a new battle, are the souls still protected from rescue (if it’s still the same battle phase but just a new battle), or is it an entirely new battle phase so the souls are now rescuable?
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Re: New battle
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2019, 09:14:01 AM »
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Well because you used an end the battle card. You will remain does not get banished. It's a new battle so the Lost souls are not protected anymore.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2019, 09:34:26 AM »
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Quote from: Watchman on July 30, 2019, 08:51:28 AM
If I use Worshipping Demons to protect Lost souls from rescue and also end the battle, and my opponent banishes uses his YWR to begin a new battle, is it a completely new battle phase or just a new battle during the same battle phase? In other words, when YWR begins a new battle, are the souls still protected from rescue (if it’s still the same battle phase but just a new battle), or is it an entirely new battle phase so the souls are now rescuable?
The latter. Grapes of Wrath established precedent.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2019, 09:40:43 AM »
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End the battle in REG.

Clarifications:
All End the Battle effects effectively have cannot be interrupted status because the effect is used in the battle phase and causes the battle phase to end.

Battle phase:
... Each battle takes place in a separate battle phase.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2019, 10:02:46 AM »
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Thanks all.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2019, 01:00:39 PM »
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Quote from: Watchman on July 30, 2019, 08:51:28 AM
When YWR begins a new battle, are the souls still protected from rescue (if it’s still the same battle phase but just a new battle), or is it an entirely new battle phase so the souls are now rescuable?

Depends.  Belshazzar's Banquet, for example, says "Protect all Lost Souls from rescue by a Hero this turn".  If BB was used, then it doesn't matter how many new battle phases YWR makes, no Hero is ever going to be able to rescue a LS.

Worshipping Demons has no "this turn" duration.  So a new battle = a new battle phase, and thus LS are no longer protected.



*Also, just to make sure no one misunderstands what Worshipping Demons does - there has to be an Evil Altar or Idol active to get the LS protection.  The end the battle ability and CBN always apply though.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2019, 01:33:58 PM »
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Good clarification, Josh. And yes I intentionally left out the evil altar / idol part so I can just address the issue at hand. Thanks for also adding that for other folks’ benefit.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2019, 02:11:13 PM »
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Well if you used belshazzar's banquet your opponent could still use you will remain and add a hero to battle and then possibly stop banquet.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2019, 02:23:33 PM »
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Quote from: Jeremystair on July 30, 2019, 02:11:13 PM
Well if you used belshazzar's banquet your opponent could still use you will remain and add a hero to battle and then possibly stop banquet.

Bel's Banquet doesn't remove any Heroes from battle so it would not trigger YWR.
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Re: New battle
« Reply #9 on: July 30, 2019, 04:15:31 PM »
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True!
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