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We all know that if you have GiC up as an art, and discard it to capture a hero in battle, that it can't be negated.  But what about in battle?

Imagine a crimson character is blocking a larger hero.  They play GiC in battle, and immediately discard it to capture the hero.  Normally the hero would not be able to negate that with a regular negate (because GiC is no longer in play).  Normally the hero would have to play a "negate last" that would be able to target GiC in the discard pile.

So the question is what would happen if the hero interrupted the battle and discarded the crimson EC.  Normally that would cause ongoing EEs in battle to fizzle.  But GiC isn't "in battle" anymore.  So does it fizzle because the EC is gone?  Or does it still capture, because it was never negated with a "negate last"?

Aha, fun fun fun. I hope it turns out this way.

Arch Angel is correct.  Interrupt the battle will interrupt the last Enhancement played by your opponent (in your example GitC).  If you remove the EC during the interrupt and there is no other EC in battle for GitC to activate on, you have effectively negated it.

...but as ITB only interrupts enhancement causing removal if they are still in battle,...

I've never seen or heard of the underlined part before.  Where do you get that from, Cam?

same example back in the day with abners spear

I just don't see how you can interrupt something that is no longer in battle.  Let's say you could play an ITB card.  So you kill the EC.  GiC does not need to reactivate because it is no longer in play.  ITB does not change that.  ITB by definition (interrupt the battle) does not, IMO, interrupt cards not or no longer in battle.

The Card may not be, but its ability is. And the ability is what is interrupted not the card.  Cards don't have to be in battle for their abilities to be active.  just my  

‘Interrupt the battle’ interrupts all active ongoing abilities on characters and enhancements (e.g. Red Dragon), abilities that are causing you to lose the battle by removal (e.g. King Zimri), as well as the last enhancement played in the current battle if it was played by your opponent.

There's nothing that says a card needs to be in play to be interrupted.  In your example, yes, Uzzah's protect ability would be interrupted since it is ongoing.  It's interrupted, but you don't really gain anything by doing so because when your interrupt completes the protect will kick back in.

GitC needs a character in battle to activate on because enhancements are used by Characters.  Uzzah's SA does not.

Hey Cam, could you tell me what part is inconsistent?  I'm having trouble wrapping my mind around why REG quote for interrupt the battle doesn't make this clear.

Thanks,

Gabe

You guys are forgetting something:

If you want to use it as an artifact, disregard the Bible picture and play the card as you would any other artifact.

GiC face-up as an artifact is treated as an artifact and NOT as an enhancement, so it can't be negated by something that negates an enhancement, whether or not it's still on the field. Also, since it's an artifact, when would your opponent have initiative to play an interrupt at all? Do they get to play one if you use Unholy Writ? Not to my knowledge. So why would they get to when using GiC from the artifact pile?

I thought we were talking about GiC being used as an enhancement (and thus being in battle).

We were, lol

Meh, my mistake. I honestly dunno why you would use it as an enhancement, so I assumed he meant using the artifact ability during battle.

*goes and bangs his head on the wall*