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In researching the REG for TKVP's ruling question I came up with the following question:

If during the same battle phase Herod Agrippa II's (TexP) special ability is activated, and then later on in the phase I am allowed to put a fortress in play by some other card's special ability, does the special ability on the fortress ever get to activate?


Herod Agrippa II
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: None • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Negate protect abilities on Fortresses. If a Hero withdraws from battle, you may capture it. May band to a Sadducee. Cannot be negated. • Attributes: Jewish King • Identifiers: NT Male Human, King (Judah) • Verse: Acts 25:23 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

Overview
The following phases are performed each turn, even if nothing is actively done on a particular phase.  A response is allowed between every separate phase. 

1.  Draw Phase – You draw three (3) cards and add them to your hand. Lost Souls are placed in territory.  For each Lost Soul you place in your territory, draw another card.

2.  Upkeep Phase – You must change counters if needed.

3.  Preparation Phase – You may perform any number of these actions in any order. Actions may be repeated unless a limit is stipulated:

•      Place a character (cross or dragon icon) into your territory.

•      Place an artifact, covenant, or curse face down in your artifact pile.

•      Activate an artifact, covenant, or curse by placing an artifact it face up on your artifact pile (limit once per turn).

•      Place a site into your territory.

•      Place a Lost Soul into a site.

•      Set aside a character.

•      Return a character from your set-aside area and place it back into your territory.

•      Place a weapon-class enhancement on a warrior-class character in your territory.

•      Place a fortress on the table as described on the fortress. At this time its special ability becomes active.

•      Place or remove a card in a fortress as described on the fortress.

The protect ability would activate as the next phase (discard phase) begins.

Can I point out that "Negating Fortresses" would be a fairly awesome name for an indy rock group?

Sing us a few of lines Matt

And before anyone starts to wonder why I'm bringing all this up, I DON'T have broken combos.  I'm just trying to find everything that might need to be in the new REG.   

STAMP, if I ask nicely will you send me a PM with the broken combo you DON'T (wink, wink) have? Pretty pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese.

PM sent.

Hey,

It all depends on if Herod Agrippa II is a "negate" (negate) or a "negate all" (negate and prevent).  I'd be inclined to leave it as just a negate, so the Fortress played after Herod's ability took effect would work, although since Bryon seems to disagree with me...

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Hey,

negate = interrupt + prevent

This is false.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Quote

Negate is the same as ‘interrupt and prevent’ combined

From REG > Glossary of Terms > Negate

You silly out-of-the-loop players - we all go by the new REG now.

The only problem is, it isn't exactly out yet...

Hey,

Quote from: Cousin It on March 10, 2010, 03:00:42 PM

negate = interrupt + prevent

This is false.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Then I and all of the rest of this season's tournament host's/judge's would absolutely love to know what negate actually is, if not the REG definition of interrupt and prevent.

Quote from: Korunks on March 11, 2010, 07:56:39 AM

Quote from: SirNobody on March 10, 2010, 03:11:08 PM

Hey,

Quote from: Cousin It on March 10, 2010, 03:00:42 PM

negate = interrupt + prevent

This is false.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Then I and all of the rest of this season's tournament host's/judge's would absolutely love to know what negate actually is, if not the REG definition of interrupt and prevent.

"SirNobody"+New Reg= Negate

You: I "SirNobody" your enhancement, which means you lose and I win.
Opponent: Aww

I feel like I'm stuck in Limbo.  The official Document (REG) disagrees with what's being said.  What's being said agrees with the New REG.  But the New REG isn't official yet!  Rock, Paper, Scissors anyone?   

I feel like I'm stuck in Limbo.  The official Document (REG) disagrees with what's being said.  What's being said agrees with the New REG.  But the New REG isn't official yet!  Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock anyone?   

I don't think that will work anymore.  Everyone chooses Spock.   

I'm sure I would, because I would as usual have absolutely no idea what was going on.