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Yes, but the rules state that a CBN ability cannot be negated under any circumstance.  It mentions nothing under any condition where it can be negated, so we must follow the rules, meaning that CBN means CBN

Under the rules there is no conditional CBN, just CBN, so all CBN abilities fall under the current rule, which is that CBN means CBN

*Waits for standard "We're discussing this on the other side, go play with your trucks while the big boys make a decision"* post.

I've opened this discussion "on the other side". The ruling I gave on previous threads was the answer I received when I asked if the FBTN LS negated the CBP LS. In the resulting discussion I received the ruling that I've passed along. For the record, I lean the same direction as Professoralstad. Both viewpoints are valid, which is why the question keeps coming up in the first place.

When we've reached a conclusion we'll also update the REG to reference conditional CBP/CBN/CBI so it's no longer a "gray area".

Blessings,

Gabe

P.S. - go play with the new tins while the "big boys" figure this one out.

Quote from: STAMP on September 08, 2011, 01:05:05 PM

That being said, I'm still trying to find the official repository of the "CBN-granting cards are CBN" rule.

There is no "official repository."

The REG gives an example where this is strongly implied, and it has been mentioned roughly 3.2 gazillion times on this board because you know as well as everyone else that this is a ruling that has been in place forever.

Exactly.  Just like a baserunner does NOT cross over the pitcher's mound.  And you don't bunt to break up a no-hitter.

Quote from: STAMP on September 09, 2011, 11:09:07 AM

And you don't bunt to break up a no-hitter.

I would bunt.

Spoken like someone who would use their only reliable block to block a rescue by someone with zero redeemed souls in a multi game, when the next player to the left only needs one more for the win. 

Quote from: EmJayBee83 on September 09, 2011, 12:25:58 AM

Quote from: STAMP on September 08, 2011, 01:05:05 PM

That being said, I'm still trying to find the official repository of the "CBN-granting cards are CBN" rule.

There is no "official repository."

The REG gives an example where this is strongly implied, and it has been mentioned roughly 3.2 gazillion times on this board because you know as well as everyone else that this is a ruling that has been in place forever.

Exactly.  Just like a baserunner does NOT cross over the pitcher's mound.  And you don't bunt to break up a no-hitter.

No, not like that at all.