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Cool. Holy of Holies prevents the "Previous artifact is negated" sentence from the Queen's SA. So you get to have Holy of Holies, Asherah Pole, and the artifact that Asherah Pole replaced all active for that Battle Phase.

The only problem would be if the previous artifact was something like Unknown Nation that required its own discard, since you could not target it for discard while it is face down.

What if the other artifact was Unholy Writ? Would that mean you could capture, but then couldn't discard it because it is no longer in play?

That just goes back to our other discussion about triggered artifacts that are discarded. I would still argue that triggered SAs should not "linger." However, my opinion was squashed, so I say have at it with convoluted combos.

And if it can't be discarded, that means I can use it as many times as I want, right?

Sure, why not. You just have to keep blocking with the Queen and not lose her by other methods. You also have to keep Holy of Holies active. There are many ways to stop this, but you could at least get a few uses out of it for laughs, especially if you use her other ability and bring in King Rehoboam.

It is my understanding that Unholy Writ will get a play as in the new REG and that it is a cost of discarding it to use its ability.

The "New REG" is a hoax with its own elaborate phony website. This combo will work indefinitely.

this makes me think of the panic demon+ Dou combo...

How does Panic Demons trigger ability happen if he's not in play?
Panic Demon (Pale Green)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Pale Green • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: If rescue attempt fails, you may place this card on a Hero in a territory. Hero cannot enter battle while this Panic Demon remains. May band to Panic Demon. • Identifiers: Generic NT Male Demon • Verse: II Timothy 1:7 • Availability: Angel Wars booster packs (Common)

Death of Unrighteous
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Pale Green • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Shuffle all Lost Souls and sites in holder's Land of Bondage into owner's draw pile. Discard all Evil Characters in battle. • Play As: Shuffle all Lost Souls, sites, and evil cards in sites in holder’s Land of Bondage into owner’s draw pile. Discard all Evil Characters in battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Genesis 7:23 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Rare)

Doesn't using DoU make it a battle challenge, and thus Panic Demon would not trigger due to it not being a rescue attempt anymore? The battle is won by the offensive player, so I don't see any way that you could use DoU and still meet the "rescue attempt fail" trigger.

If a Rescue Attempt becomes a battle challenge, then it is a failed rescue. Also, even after DoU, it could switch back and forth between RA and BC. For example:

You attack. I block PD and play DoU. All my LS's are shuffled, it is now a BC. You play Harvest Time, it is now an RA. I use Unknown Nation to search for a new blocker, and play Failed Objective. It is now a BC. If the battle was at any point an RA, and the battle phase ends without the hero rescuing a soul, then it is a failed RA.

Can you point me to where it says this in the rules? It's not that I don't trust you, I just want to know for future reference

Quote from: BubbleBoy on January 18, 2010, 09:02:57 AM

And if it can't be discarded, that means I can use it as many times as I want, right?

Sure, why not. You just have to keep blocking with the Queen and not lose her by other methods. You also have to keep Holy of Holies active. There are many ways to stop this, but you could at least get a few uses out of it for laughs, especially if you use her other ability and bring in King Rehoboam.

I meant use it many times at once, to capture more than one hero in the same battle. However, I did overlook the possibility that Unholy Writ could discard itself underground.

The difference is, UW targets itself for Discard, which it can't do if it's no longer in play. Panic Demon only targets a Hero to be placed on, which can work regardless of where PD is.

Does every "Discard" card target itself so that it can be used to Discard things? Does every "Withdraw" card target itself so that it can be used to withdraw things? No. So why would you say that "place" cards target themselves so that they can be used to place things?

In other words, "Place" cards don't target themselves to be placed, they target whatever something is to be placed on.

Is there a default target on it that invalidates the PD+DoU combo?

Regardless, UW still targets two things: a character for Capture and itself for Discard. Until it gets an Eratta to become cost/benefit, this combo works.