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Negate and Interrupt
« on: July 23, 2014, 03:56:07 PM »
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Easy scenario: Opponent plays a card in battle that would capture my only character in battle. I have Korah's Rebellion and Mask of Arrogance. I know Korah's Rebellion interrupts the battle, it says so first word of the ability, so I can play it successfully block and that's that. Can I instead play Mask of Arrogance? I know Negate=Interrupt and Prevent but cards like Mask of Arrogance, Abraham's Servant to Ur, or Mask of Fear I'm just not sure about whether I can use them in order to "counter" other cards. This is basic, I know, but I haven't seen it in writing (not saying it isn't somewhere just that I haven't seen it.)

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #1 on: July 23, 2014, 06:25:12 PM »
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Quote from: http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Negate
A negate ability takes a previously completed ability and undoes the effect of that ability.
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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #2 on: July 23, 2014, 07:02:45 PM »
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So anything that says anywhere on the card that it negates can be played in response to another card to "counter" it? A new example: Burning Bush (All evil enhancements in battle are negated and discarded.)

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #3 on: July 23, 2014, 07:10:33 PM »
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Yes, unless the negate has a specific target.
EX. Destruction of Nehushtan negates artifacts only.
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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #4 on: July 23, 2014, 07:17:37 PM »
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Yeah, I get the limited selection part if it targets only certain kinds of cards, just clarifying it's place in the ability text (first thing versus farther in the sentence.) Thanks for your help. Surprised these kinds of cards aren't used more often.

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #5 on: July 23, 2014, 07:31:10 PM »
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So many cards are CBN or you don't get a chance to respond to them. Almost every deck runs at least one negate though.
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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #6 on: July 23, 2014, 07:56:06 PM »
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Okay, what constitutes getting a chance to respond? I am under the impression that if a card would end the battle (ie. discard the only character I have in battle) I get initiative to play a card, one that would have to interrupt or negate in order to be played at that point. So all my questions have had that scenario in mind. What would keep me from having a chance to respond except for CBN?

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #7 on: July 23, 2014, 08:25:39 PM »
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So many cards are CBN or you don't get a chance to respond to them. Almost every deck runs at least one negate though.
They are mostly never your basic negates either. They most likely have one or more abilities besides the negate, ex. Samuel's Edict that negates and discards plus discards a character and has the possibility to be CBN.

You really don't want to use negates that just target the last enhancement played or a certain type of card, you want them to have a broad range

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #8 on: July 23, 2014, 10:40:04 PM »
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Okay, what constitutes getting a chance to respond? I am under the impression that if a card would end the battle (ie. discard the only character I have in battle) I get initiative to play a card, one that would have to interrupt or negate in order to be played at that point. So all my questions have had that scenario in mind. What would keep me from having a chance to respond except for CBN?
The only time you get to respond with an interrupt/negate is when your opponent removes your last character from battle. For instance, if your opponent plays Death of Unrighteous to discard their ECs and shuffle souls, you do not get a chance to negate it because your hero did not get harmed. Another scenario in which you would not get special initiative to negate is if you are attacked, you block with a band, and your opponent plays a card to discard only one of your ECs. If you have regular initiative you can play a negate off your EC that is still in battle but not the one that was discarded.

If you attack with Maharai banded Tribal Elder banded to Isaiah and your opponent block with Sabbath Breaker and plays Coliseum Lions then you would have special initiative to play Abraham's Servant to Ur to negate it, Words of Encouragement to interrupt it and play next, or Swords into Plowshares to interrupt and discard it since your opponent would have been discarding your last hero in battle.

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2014, 12:45:37 PM »
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Yes, after my post the Death of the Unrighteous did come to mind. Just to be 100%, a card the would remove ALL cards, like Korah's Rebellion CAN be negated, right?

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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2014, 01:22:03 PM »
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Just to be 100%, a card the would remove ALL cards, like Korah's Rebellion CAN be negated, right?

Correct. Since you are losing by removal, you would have special initiative to stop it.
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Re: Negate and Interrupt
« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2014, 01:25:11 PM »
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Yes.  Your opponent would be given Special Initiative to negate/interrupt Korah's Rebellion.


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