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we said that putting Nazareth in battle with a "search ability" Hero would work

Except that it doesn't. If Nazareth with a Search hero works, then I can SoG/NJ Shuffler and Thorns and shuffle the rest of the Souls.

The initial ruling on Nazareth and Search Heroes was one of those things that seemed like a good idea at the time, but is inconsistent with other rulings that are exactly the same.

3.  An unoccupied site is placed in battle with the Hero and the icon box on the unoccupied site contains a matching brigade color in the icon box of the occupied site. The unoccupied site can be added at any time during the battle, but it must come from the player’s territory

Also, from the REG:

Quote from: REG>Redemption Rulebook>Diagram of a Turn>Battle Phase>Access to a Site

3.  An unoccupied site is placed in battle with the Hero and the icon box on the unoccupied site contains a matching brigade color in the icon box of the occupied site. The unoccupied site can be added at any time during the battle, but it must come from the player’s territory

This suggests that the site can in fact be placed in battle with the hero (I view it similar to a weapon/placed card coming in with the Hero) or at any other time during the battle. The difference I see between this situation and the shuffler/thorns situation is the following: LS abilities are active until the next phase from which they leave play (a ruling on which I was recently overruled). However, the rule with sites is that their SA's work if they are not in battle, and don't work if they are in battle. A Search ability cannot begin until the Hero is in battle, and the Hero is in battle along with the Site.

Now, the rule for sites "switching off" in battle is a relatively new one, and it hasn't been ironed out with complete certainty. But the way I interpreted it was that as soon as they are in battle, they no longer are active, and aren't necessarily pending other abilities.

Therefore, it remains my stance that adding Nazareth into battle with Susanna/Gabriel/Green Prophet with HT will allow you to search.

1.  First, I quote the rulebook:
"The special ability on a single-colored site is active only while it is occupied."

Quote from: Minister Polarius on January 13, 2011, 11:33:41 AM

The site entering battle simultaneously with the Hero is not good enough unless SoG/NJ on Shuffler and Thorns works too. The SA on the Site doesn't turn off until it's in battle, and if it's entering simultaneously with the hero, the Hero is not in battle until his SA completes. A further example would be playing Siege while Thaddeus and other cards are in play. Even in that situation, where we do have ordered simultaneous abilities, choosing Thad to enter first would still not preclude any other characters entering from Siege because the targeting has already taken place.

It's the same with the Hero. At the time of the Hero entering battle, the Site is also entering battle, the Hero can't target the deck because of Nazareth, then both cards are in battle and Search abilities are now able to work.

For further reference, please read what Thorns LS actually says.

1.) Lost Souls and Heroes work differently
2.) Thad wouldn't interrupt Siege, so it's effect takes place, and then his.
3.) Given that the owner of the cards chooses which order the effects take place (i.e. Warrior/Weapon), the owner could choose to deactivate Naz and then HT -> Search.  (This is an assumption on my part, what say the Elders?)

3 is not correct. There is a prescribed order of abilities, however, it is unclear as to where site deactivation upon entering battle takes place. I have assumed that it happened as soon as the Site moved with the Hero into battle.

ps--On the multicolor sites, are their SAs and 'color' not active in territory?

For the record the ruling about single color sites is not in either of those threads.

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