Author Topic: Nazareth vs Mayhem (Read 7772 times)

lightningninja · « **Reply #25 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:04:06 PM »

No, the hero ability has to complete first.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #26 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:04:21 PM »

The Hero is not in battle until his SA has completed. There is no battle until a Hero (or Taunting EC) is in battle. There is never a window of opportunity to put Nazareth into battle and let the first string of Heroes search with their abilities.

lightningninja · « **Reply #27 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:06:45 PM »

I still don't get "taunting..."

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #28 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:08:53 PM »

Battle-challenge, but with an EC.

browarod · « **Reply #29 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:09:57 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 24, 2010, 07:04:21 PM

The Hero is not in battle until his SA has completed. There is no battle until a Hero (or Taunting EC) is in battle. There is never a window of opportunity to put Nazareth into battle and let the first string of Heroes search with their abilities.

If cards cannot enter battle with characters then I should always be able to draw and play with Throne of David since the EC's weapon enters after the EC has entered (i.e. "blocked").

lightningninja · « **Reply #30 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:10:53 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 24, 2010, 07:08:53 PM

Battle-challenge, but with an EC.

I'm assuming you have to block to do this? Or no?

browarod · « **Reply #31 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:17:14 PM »

Basically, if your opponent doesn't have any Lost Souls, you can make a Taunt battle challenge with an EC that has the Taunt identifier during your turn. It's the only battle you can do that turn (just like any other battle). If you win the Taunt (either by defeating the hero they present, or if they don't present a hero) you get to do whatever the card says in parenthesis after the Taunt identifier (for example, Goliath lets you place an opponent's hero beneath deck if he wins).

Does that help?

lightningninja · « **Reply #32 on:** September 24, 2010, 09:01:45 PM »

Yes, thanks. Bummer it only works if they don't have ls though...

SirNobody · « **Reply #33 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:11:25 PM »

Hey,

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 24, 2010, 07:04:21 PM

The Hero is not in battle until his SA has completed.

This is not true. The hero is in battle as soon as it is in the field of battle.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #34 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:14:59 PM »

That's obviously wrong. Disregarding until someone agrees with you.

Warrior_Monk · « **Reply #35 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:21:25 PM »

I'm No Elder, but I agree. Otherwise Hur could rescue a soul drawn in T2.

Red Dragon Thorn · « **Reply #36 on:** October 04, 2010, 01:59:56 PM »

Ring Wraith's logic is one of the reasons that the rule is that way.

I agree with Tim.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #37 on:** October 04, 2010, 02:01:22 PM »

Well this is lovely... I thought this whole mess was sorted out back with Angels Sword vs 2kh on Assyrian Archer.

Posting here to remind myself of this thread later, as I don't have time to write a long post right now.

Michael_of_the_Star · « **Reply #38 on:** October 04, 2010, 02:21:24 PM »

I think the hero enter battle before it's special ability activates right???

Josh · « **Reply #39 on:** October 04, 2010, 02:26:52 PM »

I know this is a little off the track of the current thread discussion, but it is relevant based on the two cards discussed by the original poster. I didn't see any mention of this earlier in the thread, so:

If I have Nazareth in my territory and my opponent plays Mayhem, I would just draw 6 cards, correct? I am protected from shuffling my current hand in, but nothing on Mayhem or Nazareth makes me believe that I wouldn't draw 6.

Master KChief · « **Reply #40 on:** October 04, 2010, 02:30:31 PM »

correct.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #41 on:** October 04, 2010, 06:15:29 PM »

sounds like Nazareth stops alot.

Michael_of_the_Star · « **Reply #42 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:17:14 PM »

If Nazareth doesn't stop the drawing ability of Mayhem, then Nazareth is helping Mayhem a lot. However, Mayhem's effect states that shuffle your hand to draw 6 cards, therefore Mayhem's effect won't work. THank you.

ML.

Master KChief · « **Reply #43 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:18:36 PM »

wrong. mayhem does not say that.

Michael_of_the_Star · « **Reply #44 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:22:22 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on October 04, 2010, 08:18:36 PM

wrong. mayhem does not say that.

Mayhem (TP)

Type: Grim Reaper • Brigade: • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Each player must shuffle hand into deck to draw six. • Play As: Each player must shuffle [return] hand into deck to draw six. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Isaiah 59:7 • Availability: Thesaurus ex Preteritus booster packs ()

See also:

• Draw

• Return

Not that I am going against you, but I got this from the REG. Thank you.

ML.

Master KChief · « **Reply #45 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:28:34 PM »

i would suggest reading the actual card rather than the REG then.

Lamborghini_diablo · « **Reply #46 on:** October 04, 2010, 08:35:58 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on October 04, 2010, 08:28:34 PM

i would suggest reading the actual card rather than the REG then.

I would suggest you do the same:

You must shuffle in order to draw. Simple as that.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #47 on:** October 04, 2010, 10:45:07 PM »

o_0 How is the art in RTS wrong!? I could have sworn the card scan says "and."

Master KChief · « **Reply #48 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:03:31 PM »

I blame this on you pol.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #49 on:** October 04, 2010, 11:18:17 PM »

AHAHAHAHAHAHA I REALZED WHAT HAPPED THERES A AND IN HAND AND I ACCIDENTALLY THE WHOLE CARD

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