Author Topic: Nazareth vs Mayhem (Read 7781 times)

slugfencer · « **on:** September 18, 2010, 02:34:55 PM »

I have nazareth in my territory.
Opponent plays mayhem.
Mayhem works on him but not me?

Thanks!

Nazareth (Di)
Type: Site • Brigade: Green • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Protect cards in your territory and hand from shuffle by an opponent. Protect all decks from search abilities. •

Mayhem (TP)
Type: Grim Reaper • Brigade: • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Each player must shuffle hand into deck to draw six. • Play As: Each player must shuffle [return] hand into deck to draw six. •

fyero · « **Reply #1 on:** September 18, 2010, 02:55:31 PM »

exactly

slugfencer · « **Reply #2 on:** September 18, 2010, 03:28:15 PM »

ah, thanks.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #3 on:** September 20, 2010, 09:55:27 AM »

Nice find.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #4 on:** September 20, 2010, 11:04:07 AM »

yea had this happen to me other day- ouch!

Michael_of_the_Star · « **Reply #5 on:** September 23, 2010, 03:27:12 AM »

Yes, however if it were another site that said "prevent" from hand shuffle, then Mayhem will work because Mayhem cannot be negated. Thanks.

Master KChief · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2010, 04:14:49 AM »

...why is it a bad thing if the opponents mayhem doesnt work on you? thats probably the best thing ever.

Master_Chi · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2010, 10:46:55 AM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 23, 2010, 04:14:49 AM

...why is it a bad thing if the opponents mayhem doesnt work on you? thats probably the best thing ever.

If they draw all their Doms in that hand they draw, and you're stuck with (r@p for a hand.

Master KChief · « **Reply #8 on:** September 23, 2010, 02:24:43 PM »

99% of the time a mayhem that doesnt affect you is the best thing since most of the time it pops out during a time that hurts you the most (ie full hand, your turn rolls around, d3, out comes the mayhem. you just took a 5 card loss in addition to whatever extra cards your opponent draws over you. or during battle to act as a harvest time).

browarod · « **Reply #9 on:** September 23, 2010, 02:26:07 PM »

Quote from: Master_Chi on September 23, 2010, 10:46:55 AM

Quote from: Master KChief on September 23, 2010, 04:14:49 AM
...why is it a bad thing if the opponents mayhem doesnt work on you? thats probably the best thing ever.

If they draw all their Doms in that hand they draw, and you're stuck with (r@p for a hand.

That is an impossible thing. The average player (based on decks I've seen in the deck section of this board) uses 11 dominants. Having used Mayhem for this to be occurring, that leave 10 dominants possible in their draw pile. As Mayhem only makes you draw 6, it is 100% impossible for them to draw all their non-Mayhem dominants by the ability of Mayhem.

3-Liner And Bags Of Chips · « **Reply #10 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:14:36 PM »

I play 8. Dom's

lightningninja · « **Reply #11 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:23:40 PM »

Would there be any way to negate the part about stopping search abilities, but keep the part about protecting your hand?

Master KChief · « **Reply #12 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:26:11 PM »

i have wondered that myself, because nazareth is such an awesome card yet its a double-edged sword. it stops your own harvest time, woman at the well, amalakites slave, etc.

lightningninja · « **Reply #13 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:29:35 PM »

Quote from: Master KChief on September 23, 2010, 05:26:11 PM

i have wondered that myself, because nazareth is such an awesome card yet its a double-edged sword. it stops your own harvest time, woman at the well, amalakites slave, etc.

Yeah exactly. One of like 5 counters to my type II deck is mayhem, but I need searching... is there a card that says like "protect abilities cannot be negated?"

Master KChief · « **Reply #14 on:** September 23, 2010, 05:45:41 PM »

not to my knowledge. i dont think theres anyway around the search prevent.

Rawrlolsauce! · « **Reply #15 on:** September 23, 2010, 06:02:02 PM »

Use Lampstand instead.

lightningninja · « **Reply #16 on:** September 23, 2010, 06:02:50 PM »

Yeah I don't want to have to have a temple in the deck as well (I need my artifact slot).

Master KChief · « **Reply #17 on:** September 23, 2010, 06:04:19 PM »

although lampstand in herods temple is pretty awesome right now.

Arch Angel · « **Reply #18 on:** September 23, 2010, 09:33:31 PM »

Both abilities on Nazareth are Protects. So I don't know that it will ever really be possible to negate one half of that site.

Professoralstad · « **Reply #19 on:** September 24, 2010, 10:19:07 AM »

Of course, if you need to search a deck with a Hero, you could put Nazareth in battle as an Access Site where its ability is not active...

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #20 on:** September 24, 2010, 11:30:01 AM »

your a mean, mean man

Michael_of_the_Star · « **Reply #21 on:** September 24, 2010, 12:56:20 PM »

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 24, 2010, 10:19:07 AM

Of course, if you need to search a deck with a Hero, you could put Nazareth in battle as an Access Site where its ability is not active...

Never thought of that, that is a great suggestion. I'll abuse that combo in my play group now.

ML.

lightningninja · « **Reply #22 on:** September 24, 2010, 05:43:37 PM »

Quote from: Michael_of_the_Star on September 24, 2010, 12:56:20 PM

Quote from: Professoralstad on September 24, 2010, 10:19:07 AM
Of course, if you need to search a deck with a Hero, you could put Nazareth in battle as an Access Site where its ability is not active...

Never thought of that, that is a great suggestion. I'll abuse that combo in my play group now.

ML.

And I will stop you.

Minister Polarius · « **Reply #23 on:** September 24, 2010, 06:55:41 PM »

Too bad battle begins by placing Heroes in battle. You could use this trick to get search Enhancements to work, but not Heroes with a Search ability unless you band them in with an enhancement.

browarod · « **Reply #24 on:** September 24, 2010, 07:01:06 PM »

Quote from: Minister Polarius on September 24, 2010, 06:55:41 PM

Too bad battle begins by placing Heroes in battle. You could use this trick to get search Enhancements to work, but not Heroes with a Search ability unless you band them in with an enhancement.

Why? Sites can enter battle "at any time" meaning Nazareth could be placed in with the hero beginning the battle.

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Author Topic: Nazareth vs Mayhem (Read 7781 times)

slugfencer

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browarod

Rawrlolsauce!

browarod