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Moses + Placed EEs
« on: December 22, 2016, 11:52:13 AM »
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Scenario:  My opponent has Moses (CoW) in play.  I block his rescue attempt and play Arrest in Gethsemane in battle. 

What happens when AiG places itself in territory?  Since Moses' ongoing ability is a Prevent, and AiG already activated in battle, does AiG work?  Or does only the "Place in a territory" portion of AiG work?

Moses - "Negate enhancements, lost souls, and characters in territories (except Cloud cards).  While in battle, negate enhancements and characters in the field of battle (except Cloud cards)."

Arrest in Gethsemane - "Place this card in a territory: Judas and Sadducees cannot be ignored. Protect all Lost Souls from rescue, except by human Heroes. Discard this card after 3 turns."
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Re: Moses + Placed EEs
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2016, 12:13:20 PM »
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AiG is played in battle, the place ability activates, it hits territory, Moses negates the place ability, it goes back to battle negated, and is discarded after the battle like a normal enhancement.
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Re: Moses + Placed EEs
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2016, 12:19:48 PM »
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AiG is played in battle, the place ability activates, it hits territory, Moses negates the place ability, it goes back to battle negated, and is discarded after the battle like a normal enhancement.

How can a Prevent ability Negate something? 

For reference of Moses' instant ability being a Negate and his ongoing ability being a Prevent, see here.  The relevant post is Gabe's post - the 3rd-to-last on page 1.
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Re: Moses + Placed EEs
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2016, 12:52:51 PM »
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I believe AiG would be active until Moses re-activated his ability by entering battle.
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Re: Moses + Placed EEs
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2016, 01:06:06 PM »
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AiG is played in battle, the place ability activates, it hits territory, Moses negates the place ability, it goes back to battle negated, and is discarded after the battle like a normal enhancement.

How can a Prevent ability Negate something? 

For reference of Moses' instant ability being a Negate and his ongoing ability being a Prevent, see here.  The relevant post is Gabe's post - the 3rd-to-last on page 1.

That makes sense, I stand corrected.

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Re: Moses + Placed EEs
« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2016, 07:00:09 AM »
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I've wondered this myself (what Jmhartz said in his original post): does Moses prevent the "Place in a territory" portion of a TC enh, or only what follows this wording?
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Re: Moses + Placed EEs
« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2016, 11:12:28 AM »
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Place is just like any other ability so if Moses would prevent a card that would include the placement.

 


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