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Re: Moses is a priest? Try 2! Now with scriptual backing! (Judge?)
« Reply #25 on: January 14, 2010, 04:33:17 AM »
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He should just be reprinted as a multi-color hero with the special ability "Negate special abilities of all of opponent's cards in play and set-aside as long as Moses is in play. If this ability would be negated, discard X cards in opponent's territory instead.
X = number of Moses's identifiers - number of identifiers on blocking character

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« Reply #26 on: January 14, 2010, 09:12:37 AM »
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I was think the exact same thing nice job Arch
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« Reply #27 on: January 14, 2010, 09:24:01 AM »
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Maybe they should make a promo of Moses the way he should be. with at least the Judge and Prophet Identifiers as IMHO they are the most striking features of Moses.  Yeah he may have done some of the other things, he was primarily the judge/prophet for Israel at the time.  It may important to note he was royalty.  David (Red/Green) is not royalty because he wasn't at that point, Moses was no longer at that point Royalty. Musician is dubious but I believe he was already ruled a musician, here.  Priest is arguable but I do not care if he is, but he should be a Priest to be consistent with the mentioned cards (Melchizedek, Priests of Christ, or Saint Patrick). Just my  :2cents:.
« Last Edit: January 14, 2010, 09:29:42 AM by Korunks »
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Re: Moses is a priest? Try 2! Now with scriptual backing! (Judge?)
« Reply #28 on: January 14, 2010, 09:47:44 AM »
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how did i miss this goldmine of a topic?!
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« Reply #29 on: January 14, 2010, 09:54:43 AM »
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Er, Korunks, *ALL* copies of David count as being Royalty, Musician, and Prophet. Just like Paul is still considered a Pharisee. It's not a matter of when it's a matter of it was at some point in their lifetime.

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Re: Moses is a priest? Try 2! Now with scriptual backing! (Judge?)
« Reply #30 on: January 14, 2010, 10:17:37 AM »
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Wait, wait, wait!  We have to have the Green/Gold Prophet/Judge version first!  You know, the one that can use ALL the plagues with Moses' Rod.  :)

THEN we can make the Green/Gold/Teal version only available with a $100 purchase from Covenant Games.  :)
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« Reply #31 on: January 14, 2010, 11:27:59 AM »
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Er, Korunks, *ALL* copies of David count as being Royalty, Musician, and Prophet. Just like Paul is still considered a Pharisee. It's not a matter of when it's a matter of it was at some point in their lifetime.

I was unaware of this since David was ruled not to be able to use Promised land an unlimited amount of times.  I guess I assumed that was because he wasn't royalty.  So "David" is royalty, but not a king?  That makes even less sense than what I thought the ruling was.  Then by all means lets make Moses "everything".
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« Reply #32 on: January 14, 2010, 11:30:32 AM »
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That ruling is because "King David" is a specific card, not a notion of the kingship of David.

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« Reply #33 on: January 14, 2010, 11:42:36 AM »
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IMHO, the Bible > the REG. I think the REG conditions for having a certain identifier should only apply if the Bible doesn't explicitly state that that character did, in fact, hold that identity, which in this case, it does.
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« Reply #34 on: January 14, 2010, 02:45:45 PM »
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IMHO, the Bible > the REG. I think the REG conditions for having a certain identifier should only apply if the Bible doesn't explicitly state that that character did, in fact, hold that identity, which in this case, it does.
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« Reply #35 on: January 14, 2010, 04:25:54 PM »
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Making people look to the Bible is never trouble.  :)

I'm very glad about threads like this.  It is one of the most exciting things about Redemption: discovering things from the Bible that I had never noticed before.  :)

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Re: Moses is a priest? Try 2! Now with scriptual backing! (Judge?)
« Reply #36 on: January 14, 2010, 05:25:40 PM »
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Sooo...can has O.T. Prophet Judge Musician Royalty Priest Moses?
« Last Edit: January 14, 2010, 05:48:35 PM by Minister Polarius »
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Re: Moses is a priest? Try 2! Now with scriptual backing! (Judge?)
« Reply #37 on: January 14, 2010, 05:47:49 PM »
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O.T. / N.T. is determined by verse on card (or by rule in the case of a Josephus or nonexistent reference).  See Gabriel/Gabriel and Michael/Michael.

Other identifiers are all OK with me.  But, I think that Rob needs to OK the Judge label since that was ruled the other way at last vote.

IMO, a Gold/Green/Purple/White/Teal Moses with all those identifiers listed would be very, very cool.  :)
« Last Edit: January 14, 2010, 05:50:19 PM by Bryon »

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« Reply #38 on: January 14, 2010, 06:01:04 PM »
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Hey,

IMO, a Gold/Green/Purple/White/Teal Moses with all those identifiers listed would be very, very cool.  :)

If that card was ever printed, it would immediately be number 1 on my "list of cards I wish we would ban" list.

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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2010, 07:10:23 PM »
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Re: Moses is a priest? Try 2! Now with scriptual backing! (Judge?)
« Reply #40 on: January 14, 2010, 07:35:34 PM »
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Hey,

IMO, a Gold/Green/Purple/White/Teal Moses with all those identifiers listed would be very, very cool.  :)

If that card was ever printed, it would immediately be number 1 on my "list of cards I wish we would ban" list.

Tschow,

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You posses such a list? Also I agree. A hero with access to all the best battlewinners in the game, and you don't have to do anything funny with conversion and such. Plus he fought an earthly battle right ;) So we could give him a weapon, and we could give him like 1/1 stats that way he can have initiative too ;)
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« Reply #41 on: January 14, 2010, 07:58:59 PM »
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just play the triple brigade prevent sa ls and you are straight XD
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« Reply #42 on: January 14, 2010, 08:59:20 PM »
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Sooo...can has O.T. Prophet Judge Musician Royalty Priest Moses?
O.T. / N.T. is determined by verse...Rob needs to OK the Judge label...Other identifiers are all OK with me.
So Bryon confirms that Moses is an OT Prophet, Musician, Royalty, Priest.  Awesome!!!

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« Reply #43 on: January 14, 2010, 10:30:39 PM »
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WOOT! Now I can do crazy silly The silver trumpets bands! Who needs gathering?
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« Reply #44 on: January 14, 2010, 10:32:49 PM »
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« Reply #45 on: January 14, 2010, 10:34:21 PM »
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Throw Moses, silver trumpet, and Cov w/ Moses in a teal deck, and he is SET!  I'm lovin it.

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« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2010, 10:40:34 PM »
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what about table of showbread anybody?
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« Reply #47 on: January 14, 2010, 10:40:43 PM »
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Throw Moses, silver trumpet, and Cov w/ Moses in a teal deck, and he is SET!  I'm lovin it.
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« Reply #48 on: January 14, 2010, 10:54:17 PM »
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Table of Showbread
Type: Artifact • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: On activation, place a good O.T. Enhancement from hand on this card. Your Priest may use that Enhancement as if played from hand, regardless of brigade. If this card is deactivated, return contents to hand. • Identifiers: OT, Tabernacle Item, Temple Item • Verse: Exodus 25:30

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« Reply #49 on: January 14, 2010, 10:59:57 PM »
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this is seriously insane!!!
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