Author Topic: Noah + Blue Site Question. (Read 1485 times)

Red · « **on:** February 09, 2017, 07:43:10 AM »

Can you use Noah's ability to exchange a blue site?

Noah (COW)

"You may exchange a card in hand or territory with a human of matching brigade (or 2 flood survivors) in deck or discard pile. May band to a flood survivor. Cannot be interrupted.

Xonathan · « **Reply #1 on:** February 09, 2017, 07:52:23 AM »

Sites don't have brigades I believe.

Red · « **Reply #2 on:** February 09, 2017, 07:55:49 AM »

Quote from: Xonathan on February 09, 2017, 07:52:23 AM

Sites don't have brigades I believe.

Citation needed. If that's the case, then if not codified it needs to be.

megamanlan · « **Reply #3 on:** February 09, 2017, 09:06:07 AM »

Quote from: Xonathan on February 09, 2017, 07:52:23 AM

Sites don't have brigades I believe.

Actually I believe they do have brigades because they can give you Site Access to their Brigade color

uthminister [BR] · « **Reply #4 on:** February 09, 2017, 09:59:17 AM »

I cannot find that codified one way or the other although I do believe I have seen it before. I am having a Shazam moment.

The Guardian · « **Reply #5 on:** February 09, 2017, 10:13:58 AM »

I believe that is a legal play as it has been ruled that you can discard a Teal Site to use the instead ability of Solomon's Temple.

Keep in mind that if you exchanged a Site, any Lost Souls in the Site would not follow.

RTSmaniac · « **Reply #6 on:** February 14, 2017, 07:14:47 AM »

What if the lost soul was placed on the site?

Xonathan · « **Reply #7 on:** February 14, 2017, 08:03:29 AM »

If sites have brigades then Emperor Vitellius draws 9 off of dragon raid which he never has. I'd like to see a formal ruling or explanation about this.

megamanlan · « **Reply #8 on:** February 14, 2017, 09:24:44 AM »

Multicolor is generally treated as 1 brigade

Ironisaac · « **Reply #9 on:** February 14, 2017, 10:05:42 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on February 14, 2017, 09:24:44 AM

Multicolor is generally treated as 1 brigade

No, it's treated as all the brigades. its an increase 9/9, decrease 9/9, and a draw 9 off of provoked when your opponent has the new Sword of the Spirit in play. One of my friends always puts his SotS on his captain and goes in with josh captain. I love just throwing that down, drawing a ton of cards, decreasing his josh to nothing, and then increasing my guy to be bigger than captain. Oh, what's that? no silver enh? YOU DIE!

The Guardian · « **Reply #10 on:** February 14, 2017, 10:23:44 AM »

Quote from: Xonathan on February 14, 2017, 08:03:29 AM

If sites have brigades then Emperor Vitellius draws 9 off of dragon raid which he never has. I'd like to see a formal ruling or explanation about this.

I believe we've ruled that Sites have "neutral" brigades even though they share the same brigades as Heroes and GE. That's why Vitellius does not draw due to DragonRaid (because he specifies "# of good brigades") but Noah can exchange a Blue Site and Solomon's Temple can instead with a Teal Site.

Sites need to have brigades in order for them to work, but they are not good cards therefore they are not considered "good brigades."

megamanlan · « **Reply #11 on:** February 14, 2017, 10:25:13 AM »

Unless that was a new ruling, then it's wrong. Multi is 1 brigade that subs as all brigades.

The Guardian · « **Reply #12 on:** February 14, 2017, 10:33:35 AM »

Quote from: megamanlan on February 14, 2017, 10:25:13 AM

Unless that was a new ruling, then it's wrong. Multi is 1 brigade that subs as all brigades.

No, multi has always been all brigades. A card that targets Red brigade can target a multi-card.

If I have the new Sword of the Spirit in play, I have 9 brigades in play.

Ironisaac · « **Reply #13 on:** February 14, 2017, 10:35:59 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on February 14, 2017, 10:33:35 AM

Quote from: megamanlan on February 14, 2017, 10:25:13 AM
Unless that was a new ruling, then it's wrong. Multi is 1 brigade that subs as all brigades.

No, multi has always been all brigades. A card that targets Red brigade can target a multi-card.

If I have the new Sword of the Spirit in play, I have 9 brigades in play.

it might be good to add that to the REG though, just so it does not confuse people.

Xonathan · « **Reply #14 on:** February 14, 2017, 11:00:01 AM »

Quote from: The Guardian on February 14, 2017, 10:23:44 AM

Quote from: Xonathan on February 14, 2017, 08:03:29 AM
If sites have brigades then Emperor Vitellius draws 9 off of dragon raid which he never has. I'd like to see a formal ruling or explanation about this.

I believe we've ruled that Sites have "neutral" brigades even though they share the same brigades as Heroes and GE. That's why Vitellius does not draw due to DragonRaid (because he specifies "# of good brigades") but Noah can exchange a Blue Site and Solomon's Temple can instead with a Teal Site.

Sites need to have brigades in order for them to work, but they are not good cards therefore they are not considered "good brigades."

Makes sense thank you

megamanlan · « **Reply #15 on:** February 14, 2017, 02:34:57 PM »

Quote from: The Guardian on February 14, 2017, 10:33:35 AM

Quote from: megamanlan on February 14, 2017, 10:25:13 AM
Unless that was a new ruling, then it's wrong. Multi is 1 brigade that subs as all brigades.

No, multi has always been all brigades. A card that targets Red brigade can target a multi-card.

If I have the new Sword of the Spirit in play, I have 9 brigades in play.

Huh, maybe I'm just remembering an odd ruling here in Wisconsin from years ago then. Because I thought we said it was treated as 1 brigade that functions under any Brigade. Guess it's not the case then.

megamanlan · « **Reply #16 on:** February 15, 2017, 10:12:41 AM »

Quote from: Master Q on February 14, 2017, 02:47:38 PM

Quote from: megamanlan on February 14, 2017, 02:34:57 PM
Huh, maybe I'm just remembering an odd ruling here in Wisconsin from years ago then.

Haha, no, you're not. It's never been that way. Unless you were doing some fishy things before I met the Milwaukee playgroup.

I swear I remember that being the ruling Ken gave but again it was a while ago.

The Guardian · « **Reply #17 on:** February 15, 2017, 11:08:38 AM »

I have a vague recollection of that being brought up in discussions (a long time ago) as a way to treat multi, (as its own brigade) but it was never actually implemented.

megamanlan · « **Reply #18 on:** February 15, 2017, 12:33:16 PM »

That's what could be remembering.

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Author Topic: Noah + Blue Site Question. (Read 1485 times)