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I have only 1 question: If I negate Moses by CoD or something, his TC effect won't kick back in again right?

It would kick back in when CoD was deactivated or the following phase if CoD was discarded/shuffled.

I'm playing with a lot of old cards so it's hard to beat him for me right now. I don't have that many cannot be negated cards or cannot be prevented cards I'm working on getting them. And Christian martyr doesn't seem to work very long it's way too many cards that let you get stuff out of your discard pile. As for curse or an artifact you have to wait until you get it who knows when that's going to happen because you can't go and search it out. I just think there's a lot on his card going for him. And you have to get everything that you need in order to beat him.

Some of the more popular ways to deal with Moses are older cards. Capturing Moses is a great strategy cause they can't just get him back out of the discard pile. King Zedekiah + Dungeon of Malchiah is a CBN capture that was popular. Capture artifacts like Unholy Writ and Magic Charms were used alot. Sisera is really strong too he gives you CBN enhancements when blocking Gold or Red Brigade. Invoking Terror is CBP so you can underdeck him TC. Haman's Plot and Gibeonite Trickery both get around Coliseum and Moses can't stop them. If you have Covenant with Death, Confusion of Mind, or Holy of Holies active Moses is Negated. There are plenty of other ways to deal with him but those are just some ways with older cards off the top of my head.

So if my opponent plays Moses and I have Jericho can I play enhancements with my evil characters to take Mose prisoner and/Or can I play evil enhancements in my territory?

You don't specifically need Jericho for it. Jericho just makes ALL of your evil cards CBP when your opponent has a cloud hero (the new Moses is) so Moses doesn't stop your evil cards. The cards I brought up are some of the ways using older cards to stop Moses without Jericho. Jericho is just the simplest answer that can be put in almost any deck but it's a newer card so I thought I would at least post some other ways people have gone about with dealing with Moses without relying on the newest cards.

So if Jericho is activated do my evil characters special ability on the character cards still work?

while Jericho is active ALL of your evil cards cannot be prevented by Good cards. So in short your Evil Characters, Evil Enhancements, Evil Fortresses, and Curses are CBP by Good Cards.

yes unless they are cbi

I'm still having trouble understanding how Moses does not negate enhancements or evil characters that cannot be prevented when Jericho is in play or cannot be prevented is written on  the cards. I thought Moses's negate, interrupts and prevents enhancement and characters so how does a cannot be prevented work against Moses?  I am sorry know I'm new to this so it's difficult to understand.

Thanks I think this makes sense now

Quote from: The Schaefer on February 13, 2017, 05:34:12 PM

Quote from: Jeremystair on February 13, 2017, 11:16:02 AM

I'm playing with a lot of old cards so it's hard to beat him for me right now. I don't have that many cannot be negated cards or cannot be prevented cards I'm working on getting them. And Christian martyr doesn't seem to work very long it's way too many cards that let you get stuff out of your discard pile. As for curse or an artifact you have to wait until you get it who knows when that's going to happen because you can't go and search it out. I just think there's a lot on his card going for him. And you have to get everything that you need in order to beat him.

Some of the more popular ways to deal with Moses are older cards. Capturing Moses is a great strategy cause they can't just get him back out of the discard pile. King Zedekiah + Dungeon of Malchiah is a CBN capture that was popular. Capture artifacts like Unholy Writ and Magic Charms were used alot. Sisera is really strong too he gives you CBN enhancements when blocking Gold or Red Brigade. Invoking Terror is CBP so you can underdeck him TC. Haman's Plot and Gibeonite Trickery both get around Coliseum and Moses can't stop them. If you have Covenant with Death, Confusion of Mind, or Holy of Holies active Moses is Negated. There are plenty of other ways to deal with him but those are just some ways with older cards off the top of my head.

Use Falling Away (CoW) + Ehud/Asahel/Jael.  Get initiative and play something nasty that they can't negate because you picked an evil brigade they don't have, then Moses dies by numbers 

doesn't moses negate the ctb?

Choose the blocker abilities are cbi to prevent loops. insta posted

Also, Hero abilities do not convert when they are converted to Evil Characters so an Evil Character Moses is just an 8/8 no SA character.

Quote from: Ironisaac on February 14, 2017, 12:14:33 PM

doesn't moses negate the ctb?

Pre-block choose the blocker is CBI.

Quote from: REG

A choose opponent ability used before the initial blocker is presented cannot be interrupted (though it can be prevented).

This is an important distinction. Only pre-block CtB is CBI. If I play Obedience of Noah during battle after an Evil Character has already blocked, and I choose a different EC, the new EC can negate Obedience of Noah and the original EC would return to battle.

Evil Characters that are converted to Heroes keep their special ability (except for abilities that target other Heroes).

Heroes that are converted to Evil Characters do not keep any abilities.