Author Topic: Moses (Read 3472 times)

Jeremystair · « **on:** February 10, 2017, 09:17:57 PM »

Moses says negate all characters and enhancements in battle except for cloud cards. What exactly does this mean? Does that mean all Cloud of witnesses cards? Or just the heroes with the clouds on them? It's kind of strange and contradictory if all the cloud cards in the set are immune to Moses's words. That would mean all of the new lost souls from the cloud of witnesses set could not be negated by Moses.

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:18:37 PM »

It's the cloud identifier only not the set notation.

Jeremystair · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:34:43 PM »

Where is the cloud identifier located?

Kevinthedude · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:36:05 PM »

Bottom left corner of the art.

Jeremystair · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:37:25 PM »

I see it it makes sense now

kariusvega · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2017, 09:57:25 PM »

How do you block Moses in t1 with Coliseum up?

wyatt_marcum · « **Reply #6 on:** February 11, 2017, 11:01:34 AM »

Master Q · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2017, 12:35:34 PM »

Quote from: kariusvega on February 10, 2017, 09:57:25 PM

How do you block Moses in t1 with Coliseum up?

5-0. EZPZ

Jeremystair · « **Reply #8 on:** February 13, 2017, 08:59:49 AM »

Confusion, Unholy writ, thorns and thistles, holy of holies. I guess this is not totally blocking Moses but you can still use them to get rid of Moses

Jeremystair · « **Reply #9 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:28:12 AM »

If I use unclean Spirit to band in King Saul and then band in medium in endor and I choose Moses to block does Moses undo all the the banding that's already has taken place?

megamanlan · « **Reply #10 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:35:52 AM »

I believe so yea.

Jeremystair · « **Reply #11 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:39:28 AM »

I'd like to have one of the elders weigh in on this. But if this is true then they made Moses way too powerful!

megamanlan · « **Reply #12 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:44:14 AM »

Basically every brigade has a mass negator. Like The Strong Angel, Lot's Wife, Captain of the Host, and tons of others. Moses really isn't unique there. And Moses in that situation can't negate "Cannot be Interrupted" or "Cannot be Negated" cards.

Jeremystair · « **Reply #13 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:49:08 AM »

If he just negated cards in battle that would be fine just like all the other ones you named. But he does way too much in a territory as well

megamanlan · « **Reply #14 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:50:15 AM »

The others I mentioned don't just negate in battle unless they were Errata'd.

megamanlan · « **Reply #15 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:53:12 AM »

Also TSA (Warriors) negates all Characters and Enhancements. No exceptions. Honestly Daniel (P) is more OP there by negating EC's, Fort's and N.T. enhancements if I remember right.

Jeremystair · « **Reply #16 on:** February 13, 2017, 10:56:33 AM »

I'm talking about negating lost souls in a territory and enhancements in territory along with fight by numbers in battle they made him way too powerful. You can't play any cards in your territory to search your deck or discard pile he's OP. They made it so if you're not playing with him it's not that easy to beating.

megamanlan · « **Reply #17 on:** February 13, 2017, 11:11:54 AM »

Lol, he's not that hard to beat. Just drop a CBP or CBN card against him. And negating Characters and LS's isn't even a rare ability. We already have negator LS which negates all LS's and Moses is basically a weaker version of Covenant of Death. (Which basically negates all Characters and keeps players from playing Enhancements except when blocked in battle.) honestly you could flip that or any other Artifact/Curse that negates Characters and shut him off. Or just hit him with Christian Martyr and be done with it. He's far from unbeatable though. Although honestly Moses has always been an effect negator.

Jeremystair · « **Reply #18 on:** February 13, 2017, 11:16:02 AM »

I'm playing with a lot of old cards so it's hard to beat him for me right now. I don't have that many cannot be negated cards or cannot be prevented cards I'm working on getting them. And Christian martyr doesn't seem to work very long it's way too many cards that let you get stuff out of your discard pile. As for curse or an artifact you have to wait until you get it who knows when that's going to happen because you can't go and search it out. I just think there's a lot on his card going for him. And you have to get everything that you need in order to beat him.

megamanlan · « **Reply #19 on:** February 13, 2017, 11:29:21 AM »

Well, to note the newest cards Im currently using is from the latest Starter Deck (which is 2 years old). So I'm not using the "newest" of cards either. Also, there are ways to search cards. Another option as well is Invoking Terror. Because if I remember right Moses would not be restricting TC Enhancements, just negating them and since Invoking is CBP and always reusable as long as you play Multi-Color Magicians (which you should be unless your playing a strange deck) you can just under deck Moses and solve the problem that way.

Red · « **Reply #20 on:** February 13, 2017, 12:30:14 PM »

Quote from: Master Q on February 11, 2017, 12:35:34 PM

Quote from: kariusvega on February 10, 2017, 09:57:25 PM
How do you block Moses in t1 with Coliseum up?

5-0. EZPZ

He speaks from experience.

Master Q · « **Reply #21 on:** February 13, 2017, 12:52:42 PM »

Quote from: Red on February 13, 2017, 12:30:14 PM

Quote from: Master Q on February 11, 2017, 12:35:34 PM
Quote from: kariusvega on February 10, 2017, 09:57:25 PM
How do you block Moses in t1 with Coliseum up?

5-0. EZPZ
He speaks from experience.

Hehe. There comes a point in a second-turn Mayhem game where you just say:

Reading Jericho's ability when you're playing mainly Moses + Joshua/Captain in a green-based deck on the turn a Confusion is dropped is that point.

The Guardian · « **Reply #22 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:41:35 PM »

Jericho should be in pretty much every defense based on the current meta.

It's also not that hard to obtain since it's a common card.

emonier · « **Reply #23 on:** February 13, 2017, 01:43:43 PM »

This is why a lot of people try to Christian Martyr Moses as soon as he comes out.

megamanlan · « **Reply #24 on:** February 13, 2017, 02:17:38 PM »

I have only 1 question: If I negate Moses by CoD or something, his TC effect won't kick back in again right?

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Author Topic: Moses (Read 3472 times)

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