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Title: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 04:35:38 PM
Moses vs. Evil character with an ability...Cannot be negated...
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on December 13, 2012, 04:46:39 PM
If I understand you correctly, Moses has no effect on an evil character who has an ability that cannot be negated (as well as an evil character who has an ability that cannot be prevented if Moses came out first).
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 04:57:32 PM
What happens if AuTO gets Moses?
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: soul seeker on December 13, 2012, 05:33:02 PM
You would draw 2 because AUTO is cbn. Then Moses would change the battle to fbtn.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 06:12:36 PM
You would draw 2 because AUTO is cbn. Then Moses would change the battle to fbtn.

Would the evil characters ability still work...cannot be negated?
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: browarod on December 13, 2012, 06:18:13 PM
Cannot be negated means cannot be negated. Nothing can negate it (even if the negate itself cannot be negated).
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 07:13:51 PM
Daniel (P) vs. Goliath (P)
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: browarod on December 13, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
Goliath cannot be negated so Daniel's negate (even though it's also CBN) cannot negate him.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 09:12:02 PM
Goliath cannot be negated so Daniel's negate (even though it's also CBN) cannot negate him.

So evil characters always win in the negate battle??
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Gabe on December 13, 2012, 09:20:03 PM
So evil characters always win in the negate battle??

No, not at all. Cannot be negated always beats negate.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Drrek on December 13, 2012, 09:20:45 PM
Goliath cannot be negated so Daniel's negate (even though it's also CBN) cannot negate him.

So evil characters always win in the negate battle??

No, but if something cannot be negated, it can never ever be negated.   If King of Tyrus came out and tried to negate Daniel's ability, it wouldn't work because Daniel is cannot be negated.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 09:48:20 PM
Goliath cannot be negated so Daniel's negate (even though it's also CBN) cannot negate him.

So evil characters always win in the negate battle??

No, but if something cannot be negated, it can never ever be negated.   If King of Tyrus came out and tried to negate Daniel's ability, it wouldn't work because Daniel is cannot be negated.

So...Daniel (P) vs. Goliath (P)??
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Drrek on December 13, 2012, 09:49:23 PM
Goliath cannot be negated so Daniel's negate (even though it's also CBN) cannot negate him.

So evil characters always win in the negate battle??

No, but if something cannot be negated, it can never ever be negated.   If King of Tyrus came out and tried to negate Daniel's ability, it wouldn't work because Daniel is cannot be negated.

So...Daniel (P) vs. Goliath (P)??

Daniel tries to negate Goliath but can't because Goliath cannot be negated.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 13, 2012, 09:55:36 PM
Daniel says...cannot be negated...too.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Drrek on December 13, 2012, 09:58:49 PM
Daniel says...cannot be negated...too.

All that means is that nothing cannot negate his ability, not that he can negate a cannot be negated ability.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Josh on December 13, 2012, 10:36:26 PM
Daniel says...cannot be negated...too.

Daniel is still negating evil characters, even if Goliath or another CBN evil character enters battle.  It's not like Daniel isn't working just because Goliath works.  Daniel's ability negates evil characters, except those that cannot be negated.

If King of Tyrus came out and tried to negate Daniel's ability, it wouldn't work because Daniel negates KoT like a boss.

FTFY
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: YourMathTeacher on December 13, 2012, 11:59:44 PM
Daniel says...cannot be negated...too.

Goliath is not trying to negate Daniel. He is just trying to not be negated by Daniel, which he succeeds.
Title: Re: Moses!
Post by: Platinum_Angel on December 14, 2012, 12:22:11 AM
Daniel says...cannot be negated...too.

Goliath is not trying to negate Daniel. He is just trying to not be negated by Daniel, which he succeeds.

I think I understand now...
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